"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
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Measurement of the LANGUAGE PIE


It has been a long time, that intellectuals, scholars and Western linguists, unable to discover the real roots of the languages have come up with the theory of Proto-Indo-European language, according to them, a language already disappeared, by which always according to them, lay out all European languages, giving the same credit to the natural offspring and vehicular ones. The following example is one of the many, that this would likely be not true, empirical roots of PIE language are a "scientific" fairytale , which adds more mystery in the whole account. The truth is that all words of written/spoken, are graphical /lexical transformation product of the primitive words which carry a particular concept in themselves, and there is nowhere common PIE roots, which linguists has filled their books with, defocusing our attention from the simple truth.


Already proven by modern linguistics, in basis of primitive words, where it points-out the verbs, is a system c-v-c (consonant-vowel-consonant) sounds. In Albanian language almost all the verbs obey this rule, eg: 'catch, step, get, increase, see, plays, etc.(kap, hap, marr, rris, shoh, loz) or a even a simpler system eat, drink, do, stay etc(ha, pi, bej, rri), thus a combination of a consonant with a vowel. One of the most ancient primitive words of Albanian language that has been created when the language has innate itself, is the verb “mas” (measure), which is pronounced so often indiscriminate as “mat”, especially when used for lexical forms of the past, participle/infinitive, names or surnames. What is measuring(matja) itself? Measurement is a action performed by human to LEARN about the object/phenomenon, which we evaluate in the vast majority of cases of its dimensions, mass and all other physical measurable characteristics , that make us able to distinguish it from other objects/phenomenas. Measurement is done also for people, ex. when we meet an unknown person, except measurement (evaluation) of the stature of his appearance, we also learn from him his intellectual level, while measuring(estimating) it. So measurement(matja) is to learn(mesuar). It is the latter that has been introduced ready from Albanian as a graphical concept to provide the English term of measurement/mass(matjes/mases):

Image
So the English word, does not derive from a common third source (PIE language) together with Albanian one, but it is itself participle of Albanian verb “learn, learned” (mesoj->mesuar->mesur (Gheg). But this has not happened only to English, it is quite evident even in "another" language , ancient Greek, the word unlearned(pamesuar in blue):

Image
which of course has its lexical appearance in a simpler form, that of Gheg dialect unlearned (i pamesu) where:
pamesu = pa + mesu
Image

Image
Where à of the "Greek" marked with diacritical mark above has the same ‘negative’ value as the Albanian pa(without) and most likely they are the same and belong to the same language but in different time. That's how true is this, that the other "Greek" expression is nothing but Albanian word unmeasured(pamatës) which has a small deviation in meaning, but expresses the same primitive concept. So "Greek," does not use the verb measure(mas) to express estimation/learning, but measures, while Albanian uses it both [as verb] (mas & mat). It is interesting that when Albanian language has built the other verb learn (mesoj (masoj) has used mass(mas) while "Greek" has used “mat” from its Greek vocabulary (read: Albanian):


Image

The verb MAT (or MAS) of Albanian has formed innumerable lexical forms not only in Albanian itself but in other "foreign” languages too, which are only forgotten spoken Albanian idioms customized to write the language, and later separated as a distinct new language:

Image
So we do not have to do with a secluded common source the PIE language(which according to the linguists, is obsolete), but what we see is Albanian lexical forms that certainly appear inflected, always following the laws of its morphological transformation, and obtained ready-made of "foreign languages”, or graphically written somewhat differently from what we write our language today. Of course the mathematics expression indicates a continuous action of measurement and is not any particular expression of the "Greek":

Image
It only shows that the word in blue (math) is a lexical form of the primitive verb measure(mat, with red) by integrating sound “h” in the morphology of the word, a sound so dear to Old "Greeks" and Albanians, or better to say only, Albanians.

"Others" Europeans, the English seem to have properly used the Albanian language and its expressions to build their vocabulary, whose words being written with Latin letters as well as Albanian , do not create confusion as "Greek" does on the graphical aspect. For example to use pjekuri(mature) the English uses the word mature:

Image
But perhaps few Albanians who make the proper connections, that mature(te pjekur) we do call experienced adults, a virtue that comes together over the ages. It is the adults cautious, careful, and thus “measured” (te matur), or mature as we use in English :

Image
So to be mature, to become the “measured”, the time should elapse , or ORA(time) must come, you're not mature on the first place. Therefore, the ancient ""Greeks “" called exactly this expression ORA :


Image

Image

Because such they were not, and for this has come ORA (time) to say the truth, the time made us cautious(MATUR), to discover out our divine language history and to take credit for our past..
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Arta wrote:Work done by Zeus10

Measurement of the LANGUAGE PIE


It has been a long time, that intellectuals, scholars and Western linguists, unable to discover the real roots of the languages have come up with the theory of Proto-Indo-European language, according to them, a language already disappeared, by which always according to them, lay out all European languages, giving the same credit to the natural offspring and vehicular ones. The following example is one of the many, that this would likely be not true, empirical roots of PIE language are a "scientific" fairytale , which adds more mystery in the whole account. The truth is that all words of written/spoken, are graphical /lexical transformation product of the primitive words which carry a particular concept in themselves, and there is nowhere common PIE roots, which linguists has filled their books with, defocusing our attention from the simple truth.


Already proven by modern linguistics, in basis of primitive words, where it points-out the verbs, is a system c-v-c (consonant-vowel-consonant) sounds. In Albanian language almost all the verbs obey this rule, eg: 'catch, step, get, increase, see, plays, etc.(kap, hap, marr, rris, shoh, loz) or a even a simpler system eat, drink, do, stay etc(ha, pi, bej, rri), thus a combination of a consonant with a vowel. One of the most ancient primitive words of Albanian language that has been created when the language has innate itself, is the verb “mas” (measure), which is pronounced so often indiscriminate as “mat”, especially when used for lexical forms of the past, participle/infinitive, names or surnames. What is measuring(matja) itself? Measurement is a action performed by human to LEARN about the object/phenomenon, which we evaluate in the vast majority of cases of its dimensions, mass and all other physical measurable characteristics , that make us able to distinguish it from other objects/phenomenas. Measurement is done also for people, ex. when we meet an unknown person, except measurement (evaluation) of the stature of his appearance, we also learn from him his intellectual level, while measuring(estimating) it. So measurement(matja) is to learn(mesuar). It is the latter that has been introduced ready from Albanian as a graphical concept to provide the English term of measurement/mass(matjes/mases):

Image
So the English word, does not derive from a common third source (PIE language) together with Albanian one, but it is itself participle of Albanian verb “learn, learned” (mesoj->mesuar->mesur (Gheg). But this has not happened only to English, it is quite evident even in "another" language , ancient Greek, the word unlearned(pamesuar in blue):

Image
which of course has its lexical appearance in a simpler form, that of Gheg dialect unlearned (i pamesu) where:
pamesu = pa + mesu
Image

Image
Where à of the "Greek" marked with diacritical mark above has the same ‘negative’ value as the Albanian pa(without) and most likely they are the same and belong to the same language but in different time. That's how true is this, that the other "Greek" expression is nothing but Albanian word unmeasured(pamatës) which has a small deviation in meaning, but expresses the same primitive concept. So "Greek," does not use the verb measure(mas) to express estimation/learning, but measures, while Albanian uses it both [as verb] (mas & mat). It is interesting that when Albanian language has built the other verb learn (mesoj (masoj) has used mass(mas) while "Greek" has used “mat” from its Greek vocabulary (read: Albanian):


Image

The verb MAT (or MAS) of Albanian has formed innumerable lexical forms not only in Albanian itself but in other "foreign” languages too, which are only forgotten spoken Albanian idioms customized to write the language, and later separated as a distinct new language:

Image
So we do not have to do with a secluded common source the PIE language(which according to the linguists, is obsolete), but what we see is Albanian lexical forms that certainly appear inflected, always following the laws of its morphological transformation, and obtained ready-made of "foreign languages”, or graphically written somewhat differently from what we write our language today. Of course the mathematics expression indicates a continuous action of measurement and is not any particular expression of the "Greek":

Image
It only shows that the word in blue (math) is a lexical form of the primitive verb measure(mat, with red) by integrating sound “h” in the morphology of the word, a sound so dear to Old "Greeks" and Albanians, or better to say only, Albanians.

"Others" Europeans, the English seem to have properly used the Albanian language and its expressions to build their vocabulary, whose words being written with Latin letters as well as Albanian , do not create confusion as "Greek" does on the graphical aspect. For example to use pjekuri(mature) the English uses the word mature:

Image
But perhaps few Albanians who make the proper connections, that mature(te pjekur) we do call experienced adults, a virtue that comes together over the ages. It is the adults cautious, careful, and thus “measured” (te matur), or mature as we use in English :

Image
So to be mature, to become the “measured”, the time should elapse , or ORA(time) must come, you're not mature on the first place. Therefore, the ancient ""Greeks “" called exactly this expression ORA :


Image

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Because such they were not, and for this has come ORA (time) to say the truth, the time made us cautious(MATUR), to discover out our divine language history and to take credit for our past..
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por teksti ne shqip eshte me i kuptueshem
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Ne fakt te gjithe keta artikuj une do deshiroja ti rishkruaja me mire, por gjithsesi edhe keta e demonstrojne thelbin e idese, qe kam dashur te transmetoj. Dhe ideja eshte: "Gjuha shqipe, eshte me prane se cdo gjuhe tjeter, ndaj gjuhes se perbashket europiane te folur, perpara se gjuhet e fese, ta shnderronin ate thjesht ne nje substratum, duke na bere konfuze per ngjashmerine e fjaleve ne gjuhet e sotme te folura.
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IllyrianLegend wrote:All images are gone :(

Measurement of the PIE language


It has been a long time, that intellectuals, scholars and Western linguists, unable to discover the real roots of the languages have come up with the theory of Proto-Indo-European language, according to them, a language already disappeared, by which always according to them, lay out all European languages, giving the same credit to the natural offspring and vehicular ones. The following example is one of the many, that this would likely be not true, empirical roots of PIE language are a "scientific" fairytale , which adds more mystery in the whole account. The truth is that all words of written/spoken are a graphical /lexical transformation outcome of the primitive words which carry a particular concept in themselves, and there is nowhere common PIE roots, which linguists has filled their books with, defocusing our attention from the simple truth.


Already proven by modern linguistics, in basis of primitive words, where it points-out the verbs, is a c-v-c (consonant-vowel-consonant) sounds system. In Albanian language almost all the verbs structure obey this rule, eg: "kap, hap, marr, rris, shoh, loz" ('catch, step, get, increase, see, plays, etc) or a even a simpler c-v system: (ha, pi, bej, rri), eat, drink, do, stay etc thus a combination of a consonant and a vowel. One of the most ancient primitive words of that structure in Albanian language, that seems to have been created when the language has innate itself is the verb “mas” (measure), which is pronounced so often indiscriminate as “mat”, especially when used to express lexical forms of the past, participle/infinitive, names or adjectives. What do we understand by measuring(matja) itself? Measurement is an action performed by humans to LEARN/estimate an object or phenomenon, which we evaluate in the vast majority of cases of its dimensions, mass and all other physical measurable properties, that makes us able to distinguish it from other objects/phenomenas. The measurement is also performed toward people, ex. when we meet an unknown person, except measurement (evaluation) of his stature and appearance, we also learn about him his intellectual level, while measuring(estimating) it. So in other words measurement(matja) means: 'to learn(mesuar)'. It is the latter that has been introduced ready from Albanian as a graphical concept to provide the English word of measurement/mass(matjes/mases):
Image

So the English term, does not derive from a common third source (PIE language) together with Albanian one, but it is itself participle of Albanian verb, or better saying the common ancient language: “learn, learned” (mesoj->mesuar->mesur (Gheg). But this has not happened only to English, it is quite evident even in "another" language , Ancient Greek, the word unlearned(pamesuar in blue):
Image


which of course has its lexical appearance in a simpler form, that of Gheg dialect unlearned (i pamesu) where:
pamesu = pa + mesu
Image

Where à of the "Greek" marked with diacritical mark above has the same ‘negative’ (privative) value of the following part as the Albanian pa(without), and most likely they are the same and belong to the same language but in a different time. That's how true this is, that the other "Greek" expression is nothing but Albanian word unmeasured(pamatës) which has a small deviation in meaning, but expresses the same primitive concept. So "Greek," does not use the verb measure(mas) to express estimation/learning, but measures, while Albanian uses it both [as verb] (mas & mat). It is interesting that when Albanian language has built the other verb learn (mesoj (masoj) the word mass(mas) was used, while "Greek" has used “mat” from its Greek vocabulary (read: Albanian):
Image

The verb MAT (or MAS) of Albanian has formed innumerable lexical forms not only in Albanian itself but also in other "foreign” languages , which are only forgotten spoken Albanian idioms customized to write the language, and later separated as a distinct new language:
Image



So we do not have to do with a secluded common source the PIE language(a hypothetical language, which according to the linguists, is nowobsolete), but what we see is the Albanian lexical forms that certainly appear inflected, always following the laws of its morphological transformation, and obtained ready-made of "foreign languages”, or graphically written somewhat differently from what we write our language today. Of course the mathematics expression indicates a continuous action of measurement and is not any particular expression of the "Greek":
Image

It only shows that the word in blue (math) is a lexical form of the primitive verb measure(mat, with red) by integrating sound “h” in the morphology of the word, a sound so dear to Old "Greeks" and Albanians, or better to say only, Albanians.

"Other" Europeans, the English seem to have properly used the Albanian language and its expressions to create their vocabulary, whose words being written in Latin letters as well as Albanian , do not create confusion as the "Greek" does on the graphical aspect. For example to use pjekuri(mature) the English uses the word mature:
Image



But perhaps few Albanians who make the proper connections, have noticed that mature(te pjekur) we do call an experienced adult, thus a wise person, a virtue that comes together with the age. It is the adults cautious, carefulness, and thus “measured” (te matur), or mature as we use in English :
Image

So to be mature, to become the “measured”, the time should elapse , or ORA(time) must come, you're not mature on the first place. Therefore, the "Ancient Greeks “" called exactly this expression ORA :
Image
Image


Because such they were not, and for this has come ORA (time) to say the truth, the time made us cautious(MATUR),
Image
to discover our divine language history and to take credit for our past.
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Zeus10 wrote:
IllyrianLegend wrote:All images are gone :(

Measurement of the PIE language


It has been a long time, that intellectuals, scholars and Western linguists, unable to discover the real roots of the languages have come up with the theory of Proto-Indo-European language, according to them, a language already disappeared, by which always according to them, lay out all European languages, giving the same credit to the natural offspring and vehicular ones. The following example is one of the many, that this would likely be not true, empirical roots of PIE language are a "scientific" fairytale , which adds more mystery in the whole account. The truth is that all words of written/spoken are a graphical /lexical transformation outcome of the primitive words which carry a particular concept in themselves, and there is nowhere common PIE roots, which linguists has filled their books with, defocusing our attention from the simple truth.


Already proven by modern linguistics, in basis of primitive words, where it points-out the verbs, is a c-v-c (consonant-vowel-consonant) sounds system. In Albanian language almost all the verbs structure obey this rule, eg: "kap, hap, marr, rris, shoh, loz" ('catch, step, get, increase, see, plays, etc) or a even a simpler c-v system: (ha, pi, bej, rri), eat, drink, do, stay etc thus a combination of a consonant and a vowel. One of the most ancient primitive words of that structure in Albanian language, that seems to have been created when the language has innate itself is the verb “mas” (measure), which is pronounced so often indiscriminate as “mat”, especially when used to express lexical forms of the past, participle/infinitive, names or adjectives. What do we understand by measuring(matja) itself? Measurement is an action performed by humans to LEARN/estimate an object or phenomenon, which we evaluate in the vast majority of cases of its dimensions, mass and all other physical measurable properties, that makes us able to distinguish it from other objects/phenomenas. The measurement is also performed toward people, ex. when we meet an unknown person, except measurement (evaluation) of his stature and appearance, we also learn about him his intellectual level, while measuring(estimating) it. So in other words measurement(matja) means: 'to learn(mesuar)'. It is the latter that has been introduced ready from Albanian as a graphical concept to provide the English word of measurement/mass(matjes/mases):
Image

So the English term, does not derive from a common third source (PIE language) together with Albanian one, but it is itself participle of Albanian verb, or better saying the common ancient language: “learn, learned” (mesoj->mesuar->mesur (Gheg). But this has not happened only to English, it is quite evident even in "another" language , Ancient Greek, the word unlearned(pamesuar in blue):
Image


which of course has its lexical appearance in a simpler form, that of Gheg dialect unlearned (i pamesu) where:
pamesu = pa + mesu
Image

Where à of the "Greek" marked with diacritical mark above has the same ‘negative’ (privative) value of the following part as the Albanian pa(without), and most likely they are the same and belong to the same language but in a different time. That's how true this is, that the other "Greek" expression is nothing but Albanian word unmeasured(pamatës) which has a small deviation in meaning, but expresses the same primitive concept. So "Greek," does not use the verb measure(mas) to express estimation/learning, but measures, while Albanian uses it both [as verb] (mas & mat). It is interesting that when Albanian language has built the other verb learn (mesoj (masoj) the word mass(mas) was used, while "Greek" has used “mat” from its Greek vocabulary (read: Albanian):
Image

The verb MAT (or MAS) of Albanian has formed innumerable lexical forms not only in Albanian itself but also in other "foreign” languages , which are only forgotten spoken Albanian idioms customized to write the language, and later separated as a distinct new language:
Image



So we do not have to do with a secluded common source the PIE language(a hypothetical language, which according to the linguists, is nowobsolete), but what we see is the Albanian lexical forms that certainly appear inflected, always following the laws of its morphological transformation, and obtained ready-made of "foreign languages”, or graphically written somewhat differently from what we write our language today. Of course the mathematics expression indicates a continuous action of measurement and is not any particular expression of the "Greek":
Image

It only shows that the word in blue (math) is a lexical form of the primitive verb measure(mat, with red) by integrating sound “h” in the morphology of the word, a sound so dear to Old "Greeks" and Albanians, or better to say only, Albanians.

"Other" Europeans, the English seem to have properly used the Albanian language and its expressions to create their vocabulary, whose words being written in Latin letters as well as Albanian , do not create confusion as the "Greek" does on the graphical aspect. For example to use pjekuri(mature) the English uses the word mature:
Image



But perhaps few Albanians who make the proper connections, have noticed that mature(te pjekur) we do call an experienced adult, thus a wise person, a virtue that comes together with the age. It is the adults cautious, carefulness, and thus “measured” (te matur), or mature as we use in English :
Image

So to be mature, to become the “measured”, the time should elapse , or ORA(time) must come, you're not mature on the first place. Therefore, the "Ancient Greeks “" called exactly this expression ORA :
Image
Image


Because such they were not, and for this has come ORA (time) to say the truth, the time made us cautious(MATUR),
Image
to discover our divine language history and to take credit for our past.
Okej te falenderoj Zeus. Veq nje keshill ose lutje ta kisha ba, nese ki mundesi kur i shpjegojsh fjalet helene ti perdorsh edhe germa/shkrojna latine meqe e lehtson leximin shume nga ata qe nuk jon te njoftun me alfabetit helen.

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