"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

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Kjo temë është përcaktuar për mbledhjen e informacioneve përkitazi me Dorët dhe iliricitetin e tyre!

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The ' Dorians who appear upon the scene and play the leading part in transforming Greece were probably of Illyrian stock.

History of Greece: to the death of Alexander the Great , John Bagnell Bury - 1922, pg.57
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Përse kjo hartë emigrimesh e paraqet shpërnguljen dorike si të ardhur prej Lindjes, gjegjësisht Armeninë si vatër shpërndarjesh popujsh??
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Carleton S. nakun pohoi se ka pasur një lidhje ndërmjet ilirëve
Illyrians as Dorians

Carleton S. Coon claimed that there was a connection between the Illyrians and the Dorians based on his anthropological analyses of the Albanian and Montenegrin population as well as the Sfakian population in Crete. Coon discovered that Montenegro and Albania is a highly concentrated Illyrian racial zone and that the Sfakians are directly descended from Doric tribes that invaded Crete from the direction of Macedonia and Illyria. Moreover, he stated that Albanians, Montenegrins and Sfakians shared many similarities in stature, appearance, language, national costume, belligerent tendencies, tribal orders and vendettas.
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics ... _of_Europe

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Arvanites, the Dorians
Një libër i ri mbi origjinën dhe historinë e Arvanitëve , e cila përmban shumë elemente historike dhe folklorike dhe argumente mahnitëse.
-Shqiptarët janë brezi më i bukur në botë në dukje. Trim, absolutisht i ndershëm, besnik, por ajo është edhe e vështirë
Në libër ka referenca në kohën e Deucalion deri më sot për rolin e luajtur nga Dorianët dhe trashëgimtarët e tyre si pasardhësit e tyre.
Autor i librit është aktor - drejtor - filmit dhe teatrit prodhuesi Xhorxh Ekonomou, . Botimi i librit është Shoqata Kulturore INIOCHOS


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Ένα νεο βιβλίο για την καταγωγή και την ιστορία των Αρβανιτών μόλις κυκλοφόρησε ,το οποίο περιέχει πολλά ιστορικά και λαογραφικά στοιχεία,καθώς και εκπληκτικές αποκαλύψεις.
<< Οι Αρβανίτες είναι η πιο όμορφη γενιά του κόσμου ως προς την εμφάνιση. Γενναίοι, απόλυτα τίμιοι, πιστοί, είναι όμως και σκληροί. Δεν δίνουν σημασία στο χρήμα! Ίσως να μη βρω άλλη χώρα που να μην δίνουν σημασία στο παρά όπως οι Έλληνες Αρβανίτες. >> γράφει από την Πρέβεζα στην μητέρα του ο Λόρδος Βύρων τον Νοέμβριο του 1809.
Στο βιβλίο γίνονται αναφορές από την εποχή του Δευκαλίωνα μέχρι σήμερα,για τον ρόλο που έπαιξαν οι Δωριείς με την κάθοδό τους και οι συνεχιστές απόγονοί τους.
Συγγραφέας του βιβλίου είναι ο ηθοποιός - σκηνοθέτης - κινηματογραφικός και θεατρικός παραγωγός Γιώργος Οικονόμου, το οποίο έχει αφιερώσει στο Καπανδρίτι, τον τόπο που γεννήθηκε. Η έκδοση του βιβλίου είναι του Πολιτιστικού Συλλόγου ¨ ΗΝΙΟΧΟΣ¨Καπανδριτίου.
Këtë postim e kisha postuar me pare te Thema ''Arvanitet'' ka edhe tjera , si dhe ketu : http://www.arberiaonline.com/viewtopic. ... &start=405

..pra , cka ka të bëjë me Dorët a duhen të mblidhen gjitha postimet ne këtë Topic , se jane te shperndara ?
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Arbëri wrote: Këtë postim e kisha postuar me pare te Thema ''Arvanitet'' ka edhe tjera , si dhe ketu : http://www.arberiaonline.com/viewtopic. ... &start=405

..pra , cka ka të bëjë me Dorët a duhen të mblidhen gjitha postimet ne këtë Topic , se jane te shperndara ?
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