"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

Ilire, Maqedone dhe Helene.

Këtu mund të flisni mbi historinë tonë duke sjellë fakte historike për ndriçimin e asaj pjese të historisë mbi të cilen ka rënë harresa e kohës dhe e njerëzve.

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Arbëri wrote:Nuk është Enciklopedi por si kundërpërgjigje e enciklopedisë sllave , mirëpo synon edhe ke fqinjët Grek .. Si thonë një udhë e dy punë :)
Arber, une mezi kam pritur qe dikush nga mjediset tona shkencore te dale ne menyre koherente per t'u kunderpergjigjur. Une nuk po them se kjo kunderpergjigjje eshte e gabuar, por druaj se niveli i argumentimit le shumecka per te deshiruar. Me pak angazhim, shfletim tek autoret e huaj (Borza, Green, Badian, Heckel, Toynbee, Kretchmer, Boanfante, Tarn, etj) do te kishim nje argumentim te persosur mbi jo-helenicitetin e Maqedonasve dhe Iliricitetin e Maqedonasve. Me kupton cfare dua te them?
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Nuk jam aspak i surprizuar nga enciklopedia. Une e kam njohur kete fakt. Nena e Aleksandrit ishte Ilire po ashtu edhe babai. Por fakti kryesor eshte se e tere Maqedonia historike e kohes se Aleksandrit te Madh banohej nga Iliret.
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For Zeus10:

"Skeria" te Homeri. Ka ndonje baze ky spekulim?
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gtcc1 wrote:For Zeus10:

"Skeria" te Homeri. Ka ndonje baze ky spekulim?
Mund te na shpjegosh pak ku konsiston pyetja juaj?
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But after the return of the Heracleidae and the partitioning of the country, it came to pass that many of the former inhabitants were driven out of their homelands into Attica by the Heracleidae and the Dorians who came back with them
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