"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

Ilire, Maqedone dhe Helene.

Këtu mund të flisni mbi historinë tonë duke sjellë fakte historike për ndriçimin e asaj pjese të historisë mbi të cilen ka rënë harresa e kohës dhe e njerëzve.

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Mallakastrioti wrote:D. Paulus apostulus in mari, quod nunc Venetus sinus dicitur, naufragus, et ...-pag.CLXXXVII
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"...Plutarku permend ne "Lib. de Liber.educ." Mbreteresha Maqedonase Euridice,gjyshja e Aleksandrit te Madh,me origjine Ilire("genere" lat.volgare.=genus= ORIGJINE),duke e quajtur ILIRE DHE FEMER BARBARE"....


Ec e mbushi mendjen Plutarkut qe nuk eshte si ka thene ai por siç thone greko-sllavet sot :D
Ne vazhdim te kesaj po sjell edhe dicka per Filipin dhe te emen Euridice.

Edukimi i Filipit te Maqedonise,babai te Aleksandrit te Madh.

Diodorus Siculus shkruan se, pas nje disfate kunder Ilireve , babai i Filipit Amyntas la peng djalin e tij Filipin tek Iliret te cilet e derguan ne Thebe dhe ja besuan babait te Epameinondas ,i cili u kujdes per ta rritur dhe per ta edukuar Filipin.Keshtu Epameinondas dhe Filipi te dy ndoqen shkollen filozofike te Pythagores.


Diodorus Siculus, Library
book 16, chapter 2

After Amyntas had been defeated by the Illyrians and forced to pay tribute to his conquerors, the Illyrians, who had taken Philip, the youngest son of Amyntas, as a hostage, placed him in the care of the Thebans.3 They in turn entrusted the lad to the father of Epameinondas and directed him both to keep careful watch over his ward and to superintend his upbringing and education. [3] Since Epameinondas had as his instructor a philosopher of the Pythagorean school,4 Philip, who was reared along with him, acquired a wide acquaintance with the Pythagorean philosophy. Inasmuch as both students showed natural ability and diligence they proved to be superior in deeds of valour. Of the two, Epameinondas underwent the most rigorous tests and battles, and invested his fatherland almost miraculously with the leadership of Hellas, while Philip, availing himself of the same initial training, achieved no less fame than Epameinondas.


Ndersa Plutarku permend gjyshen e Aleksandrit te Madh Euridice qe ishte Ilire dhe u kujdes per edukimin dhe shkollimin e femijve te saj.Ajo shkroi edhe nje epigram te cilin Plutarku e citon me poshte.


Plutarch, De liberis educandis
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And here we may take example from who, although she was an Illyrian, and so thrice a barbarian, yet applied herself to learning when she was well advanced in years, that she might teach her children. Her love towards her children appears evidently in this Epigram of hers, which she dedicated to the Muses: —

Eurydice to the Muses here doth raise
This monument, her honest love to praise;
Who her grown sons that she might scholars breed,
Then well in years, herself first learned to read.

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And here we may take example from who, although she was an Illyrian, and so thrice a barbarian, yet applied herself to learning when she was well advanced in years, that she might teach her children.
Kjo fjali e perforcon idene time, se barbaret ndryshonin nga helenet, vetem ne lidhjen dhe edukimin religjioz. Ata nuk kishin diferenca etnike, prej tyre, por thjeshte helenet duhet te ishin nje grup i madh religjioz.
babai i Filipit Amyntas la peng djalin e tij Filipin tek Iliret te cilet e derguan ne Thebe dhe ja besuan babait te Epameinondas ,i cili u kujdes per ta rritur dhe per ta edukuar Filipin.
Ashtu si ne rastin e Pirros, Iliret shfaqen me nje autoritet dhe pushtet shume te madh, kesaj radhe ndaj "grekeve" te Tebes. Duket sikur Iliret ne fakt kane nen kontroll dhe territore jashte mbreterise se tyre, duke e intriguar me shume historine e lashtesise.
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Te gjitha burimet e vjetra e permendin shprehimisht origjinen ilire te Euridikes (nenes se Filipit). Ajo vinte nga fisi i lynkesteve, gjegjesisht nga familja mbreterore, e cila pohonte me mburrje se ishte me origjine nga bahaidet e Korinthit. Kjo vetem sa flet per falsitetin e gjenaologjive te vjetra dhe miteve, ne krye te te cilave qendronte nje eponim 'grek'. Sidoqofte ne boten moderne ende ekzistojne mendje fanatike, te cilat deshperueshem rropaten qe te hedhin poshte origjinen ilire te Euridikes. Ja nje perpjekje e mjere prej Robin J. Fox, idhullit ne nacionalisteve greke:

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Megjithate ky vetem sa ka kontradiktuar veten. Argumentet e tij negativiste mund t'i kthehen bumerang. Njeri prej tyre, fakti qe ne kryeqytetin e Maqedonise - Aegai - Euridikes i eshte kushtuar nje statuje e tere flet se maqedonasit e kohes nuk shihnin ndonje diference te ndjeshme me kusherinjte e tyre perendimor, iliret, me te cilet lidhin edhe martesa.
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“The Macedonians were considered as non-Greeks down to the time of Philip; Kaerst (see n. 5) I 154-162. Kaerst argues even that Philip was made a member of the Amphiktyonic Council personally, as of Greek descent from the Heraklidae, and not as a reprezentative of the Macedonians, who were still regarded as non-Greek”.

*City-state and World State in Greek and Roman Political Theory Until Augustus, Mason Hammond, 1966, p. 174
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FISI ILIR I TRALLIANEVE.
KY fis i fuqishem ilir Trallianet,Tralles eshte permendur shume here nga shkrimtaret e botes antike.Dalloheshin per aftesite e tyre luftarake dhe shfaqen disa here, ne luften kunder Romes perkrah Maqedonasve dhe ne luften e Romes kunder mbretit maqedonas te Sirise Antiochus 223 BC – 187 BC ata ishin perkrah Romes,permenden se kur Xerxes mbreti pers donte te kalonte drejt Ballkanit iu desh te kalonte ne Trallia prandaj u dergoi dhurata Trallianeve.
Spartanit Agesilaus iu desh te luftonte kunder tyre sepse i duhej te kolonte permes territorit Trallian.1 Agesilaüs followed ‘the very route taken by
the Great King(Xerxes) when he invaded Hellas’ (Xenophon, Hell. iv. 2, 8).

book 31, chapter 35: ... and contented himself with sending forward a detachment of 400 Trallians-an Illyrian tribe, as we have explained above-and(Titus Livius (Livy), The History of Rome, Book 31)

Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon entry *tra/lleis: ... .195 H.:— Τραλλιανός , ὁ , a Trallian, Str. 14.1.42 ,Τράλλεις or Τραλλεῖς , οἱ, Trallians (from Τραλλία in Illyria, Theopomp.Hist.340), )

On the Roman side the four legions formed the bulk of the line, to the right of which were the Greek auxiliaries, Achaean and Pergamene, the Roman and Pergamene horse, and a body of missile-shooters, Cretan and Trallian (Illyrian). ; App. Syi-. 30. * In Appian, Myndi

Pozicioni gjeografik i teritorit tyre na shfaqet edhe ne ballkan edhe ne Turqine perendimore ashtu sikur edhe shume fise te tjera si Dardanet,Phrygia,Mysia, Ionia.

Advancing some one hundred and twenty stades, he came to Magnesia which was under the government of Tissaphernes; taking this city at the first assault, he then advanced speedily to Tralles in Ionia.Diodorus Siculus, Library Diod. 14.36.

Tralles,A city in Caria. Xenophon, Anabasis (ed. Carleton L. Brownson), Book 1, chapter 4
35. The king, fearing the gamble of a decisive battle at this early moment, sent four hundred Tralles —a people of Illyria, as I have elsewhere1 said —and three hundred Cretans..Titus Livius (Livy), The History of Rome, Book 31 Liv. 31 18

book 27, chapter 32: ... men, but they were already engaged with the Aetolians and Trallians-an Illyrian tribe-and as he saw that they..Titus Livius (Livy), The History of Rome, Book 27
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Stefan Bizantini i quan ata ilire:

Τραλλία, μοῖρα τῆς Ἰλλυρίας. λέγονται καὶ Τράλλοι, καὶ Τράλλεις παρὰ Θεοπόμπῳ. λέγεται καὶ Τραλλική καὶ Τράλλα. ἔστι καὶ Τράλλιον Βιθυνίας, ἣ καθήκει πρὸς τὸν Ἀστακηνὸν κόλπον. τὸ ἐθνικὸν τούτου Τράλλιοι.

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Tre lule Ilire.


1-The Gentiana lutea of linnæus.
According to Pliny (Plin. Nat. 25.34) and Dioscorides (3.3), the herba Gentiana, well known for its medicinal properties, derives its name from this Gentius, who first made known its value.


2-sȳcĭon agron ,
I. a plant, called also cucumis anguinus, App. Herb. 113.
Gentian1 was first discovered by Gentius, king of Illyria. It is a plant to be found everywhere,2 but that of Illyria is the finest. It has a leaf like that of the ash,3 but equal in size to a lettuce-leaf: the stem is tender, about the thickness of the thumb, hollow and empty, and covered with leaves at regular intervals. This stem is sometimes three cubits in length, and the root is flexible, swarthy,4 and inodorous. It is found in the greatest abundance in humid localities at the foot of the Alps. The root and juice are the parts of it that are used: the root is possessed of certain warming pro- perties, but it should never be taken by women in a state of pregnancy.

3- dielia, the name of plant with the Dacians; with the Romans insana and Apollinaris (herba); Daci dielia. From its synonims in the Latin and Gallic languages, this plant seems to be identical with datura stramonium.

Forma e diellit ne levizje duket qarte tek kjo lule.
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Nuk e di cfare shpjegimi mund te japin greket, ne kete muze te familjes mbreterore te Maqedoneve ne Vergina te Greqise kur sheh qe aty gjenden helmeta dhe shpata ilire.

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bardus wrote:Nuk e di cfare shpjegimi mund te japin greket, ne kete muze te familjes mbreterore te Maqedoneve ne Vergina te Greqise kur sheh qe aty gjenden helmeta dhe shpata ilire.

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Shpjegimi i tyre eshte qe termi : "helmete ilire" eshte konvencional. Kjo ka ndodhur sepse ne fillim kjo lloj helmete u gjet ne territoret ilire, por me pas sipas tyre, u gjet me shumice ne te ashtequajturen Greqi, duke e bere automatikisht te tyren, sipas standarteve kleptomane te kultures greke.
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Disa nga historianet Sllave per origjinen shqiptare nga Iliro-Pellazget,

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Disa nga historianet e huaj : shqiptaret jane autokton ,
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Περδίκας Αργαίο[υ] καρανίων ιδίοις Μακέσταις (Μακεδόνες) καθύπερθεν Ιλλυραίας αγχίμολος επ' άκρα Βεδ[ύ]σσας Σαβάζω οφσιμέδοντι έρεχσεν. Μίδου επ' αν αίαν κάσχεθε οθνείους Γρεκέστας επί σκευωρήμασι λεληδορημένους αυθ' ανήρε σκυδμαίνων Βρύγας δε παλαίχθονας αλάσθαι τηλόθ' είε αμφ' αλλοθρόας. Εκτου το πάλλιστον άστυ Αιγάς προσγορεύσας εκάρπο. Κράντωρ δη Βρυγαίας γεραίτερος παλιντραπέλους άλαλκε πλην ζωγρημένων. Το δ' ούν μαρμάρεον μνάματος χάριν Δρέδας Γορδίου Γρεκιστί έχσεσεν ες γραμάτεα λυγρά

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Perdikas son of Argeos leading his Makestes when approached to Vedissa (Edessa) citadel, headed down from upper Illyria, offered sacrifice to uppermost (god) Savazos. Afterwards when conquered entire Midas country, being outraged with foreign Greeks who were charged for intrigues, extincted them immediatelly while released indigenous Briges to wander away, because both these people spoke different languages. Since then being elder sovereign of Brigea enjoyed the profits of very ancient city renaming it to Aigai while kept reppeling fugitives to return with excemption of captives. This marble chronicle was chiseled in Greek language by Dredas son of Gordios,
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Ketu nisin ngaterresat me keta qe pretendojne dinastine Filipit te II dhe Aleksandrit te Madh si ...greke. E para: Gjithe historianet bien dakort qe maqedonasit ishin fise Ilire, Epirote dhe Trake (ndoshta edhe nje pakice Frigje), pra popullsi jo greke. Tani kleçken per "hellenizmin" e maqedonasve e kerkojne pikerisht tek miti i prejardhjes se Perdikas, pasi perhere sipas zyrtareve, Argeosi sipas hamendesimeve te tyre ishte prej Argo (pra Heraklid apo prej rraces Dorike). Por le te supozojme per nje çast se doret na qenkeshin "grek". Po si i behet qe Doret, pra fiset e Peleponezit kryesisht, nuk kishin asgje te perbashket me fiset qe banonin ne Atik dhe kryesisht me Athiniotet? Kane qene perhere ne nje lufte me njeri-tjetrin Spartanet dhe Athiniotet, sikurse ne sistemin organizativ, politik, ritual-fetar, ideologji etj, nuk kishin asgje te perbashket dhe ky eshte fakt. Edhe ne se ka qene prej Argo,i pari i Filipit te II, jo domosdoshmerisht ishte athiniot, pra hellen i mirefillte dhe i ardhur prej territoreve te Sirise dhe Palestines se sotme (pikerisht sepse shumica e familjeve aristokrate athiniote ishin me prejardhje siriane, pra jo vendase, sikurse ishin p.sh Pellazget. ) Gjithashtu eshte per te theksuar se Athina ne shek. VI-V p.e.s ishte nje perzierje etnishe. Pikerisht ai qe me vone mori emrin "greqizim" lind ne Athine si pasoje e ekpansionizmit te athinioteve (kolonite e tyre jo vetem ne ishujt e Azise se Vogel, por edhe ne Maqedoni sikurse ne Sicili tashme pranohen qe kane ekzistuar) sikurse politika e tyre asimiluese ne dem te etnive te tjera ku shkonin e krijonin koloni edhe ky eshte nje fakt. Prej ketej nis dale nga dale edhe nje aspekt tjeter, krijimi i nje gjuhe te perbashket per gjithe keto etni ishte nje hap tjeter te cilet athiniotet ndermorren me tej. Por eshte perhere interesante dhe enigmatike, qe gjithçka lindi ne Athine, por qe ne Athine nuk ekzistoi asnjehere nje bibloteke, pra nuk kemi deshmi dhe gjurme te ndonje Bibloteke ne lashtesi ne Athine (ku ne te kundert kane ekzistuar Bibloteka nder popuj qe athiniotet i konsideronin "barbar" dhe te pazhvilluar).
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Si mund te quash nje popull te lashte si ate te ilireve me epitetet nga me te ndryshme, si p.sh hajdute, kusare dhe grabitqare apo pirate detesh? Si ka mundesi qe ky popull i lashte, i pari qe hyri ne epoken e hekurit (te pakten 3200 vjet me pare) ne Ballkan na paskesh qene vetem nje popull barbar dhe pa kulture? Le te shkepusim nje pjese prej librit me titull :
"End of the Bronze Age: Changes in Warfare and the Catastrophe Ca. 1200 B. C.", te autorit Robert Drews, ku pikerisht ne faqen 73, kapitulli V, autori pohon nje te vertete te madhe. Pra ishin pikerisht Iliret metalpunuesit e pare ne Ballkan, ku prej te cileve Doret sikurse Friget mesuan si te punonin kete metal. Edhe pse autori nuk pranon qe Doret ndoshta ishin fise Ilire, le te supozojme per nje çast qe gjasa Iliret paten si politike ekspansionizmin territorial (diçka jo e vertet kjo, shenimi im). Por si ka mundesi qe Iliret asnjehere nuk krijuan koloni? Ne asnje autor antik nuk ndeshim qe Iliret krijuan koloni te tyre (ekspansioniste) ne Ballkan, perkundrazi njohim vetem kolonizator "grek" ne territoret Ilire. Le te supozojme per nje çast qe Doret u debuan prej Ilireve (si rezultat i gjasa ekspansionizmit Ilir). Por si ka mundesi qe helmetat Ilire, sikurse emra personash Ilire gjenden si ne Sparte (apo Peleponez ) sikurse ne Atike?Si ka mundesi qe Spartanet (ne se eshte e vertet qe tre fiset spartane, Amfilloite, Dimanet dhe Hyllejte ishin me prejardhje Dore) vetem ne nje rast bene aleance me Athiniotet kunder Persianeve dhe pergjate gjithe historise qe na servirin kane qene perhere ne lufte me Athiniotet? Si ka mundesi qe pikerisht keta Dore, te cilet "u debuan" prej ilireve sipas autorit, nuk paten aftesi te vetembroheshin prej Ilireve dhe ne te njejten kohe arriten te neneshtronin Peleponezin (periudha e dyndjeve Dore ne Peleponez) dhe popullsite qe banonin aty? Pra do ishte e diskutueshme si teze qe Doret u debuan prej territoreve ku jetonin fillimisht (Epir dhe Thesali sipas shumices se historianeve).
Lidhur faktit qe ende sot Iliret shihen, me pa te drejte, si popullsi barbare dhe pa kulture, nuk do ishte e llogjikshme te mendoje qe nje popullsi e cila zoteron nje teknike te larte te perpunimit te nje metali, pra siç ishte hekuri 3200-vjet me pare, qe per kohen ishte e njejte sikurse te zoteroje armen me te sofistikuar sot, pra eshte jo racionale qe nje shoqeri e zhvilluar teknikisht dhe ushtarakisht, te mos kishte aftesi te tjera si ne art apo artizanat. Mos harrojme faktin qe propaganda ekzistonte edhe ne lashtesi, pra edhe autoret antike shume here benin propagande pro dhe kunder jo vetem fiseve, por edhe popujve. e pra ishin pikerisht autoret romak ata qe bene kete propagande kunder Ilireve me epitete qe nuk qendrojne, te cilat perdoren ende sot me pa te drejte prej historigrafise zyrtare boterore!
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Ma-ka Dione (Maka Zonje) , Dheu-Meme qe dha emrin Maqedonise se lashte.
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Shume shpesh historigrafia zyrtare humbet neper mite dhe mbi te gjitha emra figurash mitologjike kur kerkon te shpjegoje disa toponime, te cilat gjuha shqipe me nje lehtesi te admirueshme mund tu japi nje shpjegim racional.
Ne ato qe sot quhen shkrime apo pllaka te Tebes dhe Pilo (Linear B), M. Ventris arriti te deshifroje shume emra perendish te lashta paragreke, sikurse emra personash, zyrtaresh, toponime etj...
Ne kete rast le te ndalemi çka Ventris arrin te zbertheje ne shkrimet qe ai i cilesoi si shkrime sillabike apo shkrime te perbera me nje/dy rrokje dhe pikerisht dy rrokeshin "ma-ka". Ky eponim (po e quaj eponim pasi kulti i kesaj perendie te lashte, pra Dhe-Memes---MEMEDHEUT=Dhimitres, ishte i perhapur para se ne horizont te shfaqesin "greket") sipas zyrtares kerkohet ne Azi te Vogel. Historigrafia zyrtare pranon qe greket e keshtuquajtur te lashte, kete Perendi e huazuan prej popullsise autoktone qe gjeten kur keta mberriten dhe u shfaqen ne histori. Kulti i Dhimitres (Meme-dheut) eshte nje kult paragrek dhe ka te beje me teper me kultet e popullsive bujqesore, se sa popullsive te cilat me vone kthehen ne luftarake dhe luftenxitese apo krijuese. Ky kult ka te beje me teper ndoshta me matriarkatin se sa me patriarkatin.
Por le ti kthehemi shkrimeve sillabike te Linear B ku pikerisht shfaqet sillaba "Ma-ka" ne pllakat e Pilo dhe Tebe. "Ma-ka"="Ma-ma=Me-ma" jo vetem mund te lidhet me shqipen e sotme, por do ishte me te vertet interesante ne se shqipja e sotme do merrej parasysh ne dhenien e kuptimit te kesaj fjale te lashte. A nuk perdor shqipja ne formen e vet p.sh fjalet "Ma-ma-ke=Mama-ke" + "Ne-no-ke-Neno-ke" ende sot kur dikush i drejtohet "Memes" se vet? Kete forme e gjejme vetem tek shqipja sot, pra prapashtesen "ke" e cila duket disi e pandryshuar duke e krajhasuar me shkrimet e pllakave te Pilo dhe Tebe qe Ventris deshifroi (sigurisht ne se Ventris ka te drejte ne teorine e tij te zberthimit te ketyre fjaleve dhe ne se keto jane fjale sillabike).
Vazhdojme me tej.
Ne se fjala e pare "Ma-ke=Dheu-Meme=Dhimiter" do i shtonim "Dione" do perfitonim nje fjale te perbere teje interesante---> Ma-Ka-Dione.
Por cila ishte Dione? Dione ne tempullin e Dodones shume here eshte perngjasuar apo eshte simbolizuar edhe me "Dheun-Meme=Memedheun=Dhimitren". Edhe ne kete rast shqipja do i jepte nje shpjegim racional pasi ndryshimet me fjalen shqipe "Zonje" jane gati-gati te paperfillshme: Dione=Zonje, pikerisht sepse ishte nje Perendi e rendesishme.
Duke kerkuar ti japim ne shpjegim sa me te arsyeshem toponimit "Maqedoni" dhe te kerkojme ta ndajme ne rrokje do perfitojme"MAQE-DONIA", ku "MAKE=MAQE---ku shkronjat "K <---> "Q" te shkembyeshme (sikurse "E" <--->"A") dhe ne perberjen e tyre gjejme pikerisht ndarjen ne rrokje "Ma-Ka" te cilen e ndeshim ne pllakat cilesuara si shkrime te Linear B.
Ma-Ka-Dione=Maka-Dione=Mema-Zonje (apo "Memka-Zonje). Ne ende sot nuk dime vendndodhjen e Dodones se lashte, por dime me siguri qe gjuha jone shqipe mund te shpjegoje ne menyre te arsyeshme shume fjale te lashta, sikurse fjla e larte permendur Maqedoni, pra aty ku lindi "Mema e Dheut". Popullsite bujqesore paragreke te cilat jetonin en Maqedonine e lashte, Epir dhe Iliri ishin keto te parat te cilat nisen te nderonin kultin e kesaj Perendie te sterlashte Pellazge.
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Figura shkeputur prej:"LA MADRE TERRA NEI NUOVI TESTI MICENEI DI TEBE" me autore Celestina Milani
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Viti 77, Fash. 1 (Janar-Prill 2003), f. 3-8.
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