Ke ngatërruar Dardaninë vëlla, ajo ishte tjetër gjë. Edhe autorët e lashtë i dallonin të dyja Dardanitë si "Dardania(ajo në Ballkan)" edhe "Dardania në Azi(Ajo afër Trojës)".
Më ngjan pak me ato pretendimet idiote Greke që thonë se "shqiptarët nuk e pranojnë se kanë origjina nga Kaukazi edhe pse atje ka patur një krahinë që quhej Albania".
Hamendesime jane keto! Shihet qarte qe ju po i shperfillni cuditerisht te gjitha autoritetet e deri-tanishme qe kane shkrire dije e mund ne dardanet:
Fanula Papazoglu, professor of ancient history at the University of Belgrade, who has written extensively on the Illyrians (see among others, Les origines et la destinee de l'Etat illyrien - Illyrii proprie dicti, in Historia, Wiesbaden, 14, 1965, Heft 2), has also devoted a long chapter to the Dardanians in her work The Central Balkan Tribes in Pre-Roman Times...(Engl. Transl. from the Serbo-Croatian, Amsterdam, Hakkert, 1978, 664 p.). In this latter work she indicates that
Not one of the peoples with whom we have to deal in this book has such a claim to the epithet "Balkan" as the Dardanians... because they appear as the most stable and the most conservative ethnic element in the area where everything was exposed to constant change, and also because they, with their roots in the distant prehomeric age, and living in the frontiers of the Illyrian and the Thracian worlds retained their individuality and, alone among the peoples of that region succeeded in maintaining themselves as an ethnic unity even when they were militarily and politically subjected by the Roman arms...and when at the end of the ancient world, the Balkans were involved in far-reaching ethnic perturbations, the Dardanians, of all the Central Balkan tribes, played the greatest part in the genesis of the new peoples who took the
place of the old (p.131).
After pointing out that the Dardanians had founded Troy, that Dardanelles is a name derived from them, that Dardanians were also encountered in Italy, Prof. Papazoglu adds that when the Dardanians reappear in our sources as a historically documented people in the central part of the Balkans, they are related to the Illyrians. Illyrian elements have also been noted among the Dardanians in Asia Minor.
This all increases the probability of the theory that the Illyrians belonged to the oldest In ... Peninsula
The Albanian scholar, Zef Mirdita, of the University of Prishtina, who, like his colleague of the University of Belgrade, has devoted much time to the study of the Dardanians, has also arrived at the same conclusions (see among others, Studime Dardane, Prishtinë, 1980).39
arise6327, ke harruar vella, qe cfaredo orvatjeje per kundershtim ndaj nje hipoteze apo edhe teorie ne historiografi duhet te disponoje referencime te sakta, te bollshme qe provojne te kunderten e asaj ndaj te ciles ke mospajtim. Ne kete rast te domosdoshme jane:
1) Burimet antike
2) Te dhenat linguistike
3) Te dhenat arkeologjike.
Ne kundershtimin tuaj ndaj dy Dardanive te 'ndryshme' s'na dhe asnje burim ose fakt qe te defton se ato ishin te ndryshme. Pa me trego, njehere, cilat burime te lashta dallonin dy Dardanite? Nese (te supozojme per hir te argumentit) se ka pasur ndryshesa midis dy Dardanive, atehere ato kane qene te natyres regjionale dhe jo etnike
Si eshte e mundur qe te mos kete kurrfare ndryshimi midis dy Myzive (Moesia/Mysia) nderkaq ndaj dy Dardanive po. Ne te mire te pohimit tim flet edhe Straboni:
[VII.2] Now the Greeks used to suppose that the Getae were Thracians; and the Getae lived on either side the Ister, as did also the Mysi, these also being Thracians and identical with the people who are now called Moesi; from these Mysi sprang also the Mysi who now live between the Lydians and the Phrygians and Trojans. And the Phrygians themselves are Brigians, a Thracian tribe, as are also the Mygdonians, the Bebricians, the Medobithynians, the Bithynians, and the Thynians, and, I think, also the Mariandynians. These peoples, to be sure, have all utterly quitted Europe, but the Mysi have remained there. And Poseidonius seems to me to be correct in his conjecture that Homer designates the Mysi in Europe (I mean those in Thrace) when he says, "But back he turned his shining eyes, and looked far away towards the land of the horse-tending Thracians, and of the Mysi, hand-to‑hand fighters" for surely, if one should take Homer to mean the Mysi in Asia, the statement would not hang together. Indeed, when Zeus turns his eyes away from the Trojans towards the land of the Thracians, it would be the act of a man who confuses the continents and does not understand the poet's phraseology to connect with Thrace the land of the Asiatic Mysi, who are not "far away," but have a common boundary with the Troad and are situated behind it and on either side of it, and are separated from Thrace by the broad Hellespont; for "back he turned" generally means "to the rear," and he who transfers his gaze from the Trojans to the people who are either in the rear of the Trojans or on their flanks, does indeed transfer his gaze rather far, but not at all "to the rear". Again, the appended phrase is testimony to this very view, because the poet connected with the Mysi the "Hippemolgi" and "Galactophagi" and "Abii," who are indeed the wagon-dwelling Scythians and Sarmatians. For at the present time these tribes, as well as the Bastarnian tribes, are mingled with the Thracians (more indeed with those outside the Ister, but also with those inside). And mingled with them are also the Celtic tribes — the Boii, the Scordisci, and the Taurisci. However, the Scordisci are by some called "Scordistae"; and the Taurisci are called also "Ligurisci" and "Tauristae".
73. The Phrygians had an equipment very like that of the Paphlagonians with some slight difference. Now the Phrygians, as the Macedonians say, used to be called Brigians during the time that they were natives of Europe and dwelt with the Macedonians; but after they had changed into Asia, with their country they changed also their name and were called Phrygians. The Armenians were armed just like the Phrygians, being settlers from the Phrygians.
73. Φρύγες δὲ ἀγχοτάτω τῆς Παφλαγονικῆς σκευὴν εἶχον, ὀλίγον παραλλάσσοντες. οἱ δὲ Φρύγες, ὡς Μακεδόνες λέγουσι, ἐκαλέοντο Βρίγες χρόνον ὅσον Εὐρωπήιοι ἐόντες σύνοικοι ἦσαν Μακεδόσι, μεταβάντες δὲ ἐς τὴν Ἀσίην ἅμα τῇ χώρῃ καὶ τὸ οὔνομα μετέβαλον ἐς Φρύγας. Ἀρμένιοι δὲ κατά περ Φρύγες ἐσεσάχατο, ἐόντες Φρυγῶν ἄποικοι.
 There is an ancient story of the Armenian race to this effect: that Armenus of Armenium, a Thessalian city, which lies between Pherae and Larisa on Lake Boebe, as I have already said, accompanied Jason into Armenia; and Cyrsilus the Pharsalian and Medius the Larisaean, who accompanied Alexander, say that Armenia was named after him, and that, of the followers of Armenus, some took up their abode in Acilisene, which in earlier times was subject to the Sopheni, whereas others took up their abode in Syspiritis, as far as Calachene and Adiabene, outside the Armenian mountains. They also say that the clothing of the Armenians is Thessalian, for example, the long tunics, which in tragedies are called Thessalian ...
...pra t'gjitha burimet e mundshme flasin per zhvendosje, ngulitje ose shtegtim te fiseve pellezgjike ne drejtim te Azise se Vogel, Kaukazit dhe me gjere.
Edhe nje here te Straboni. Emrat e fiseve shtegtare ne Troade (me origjine nga Thrako-Iliria):
Straboni permend dy nen-fiset e fuqishme dardane:
To the Dardaniatae belong also the Galabrii, among whom is an ancient city, and the Thunatae, whose country joins that of the Medi, a Thracian tribe on the east.
Tere perfundimet e mundshme konvergojne ne ate qe popullata dardane ne Troade (Azi te Vogel) ishte vecse zgjatim i Dardaneve kontinental. Ne te mire te pohimit tim sherben vete analiza e emrave te fiseve ballkanike dhe atyre ne Troade, ku mbizoteron perberesi -thyn
Ilirologu akademik, A.Stipcevic thote qe materiali arkeologjik ne Azine e Vogel, gjegjesisht ne kendin e saj me veri-perendimor flet per nje prezence te padiskutueshme te ilireve.
Gjithashtu, edhe makro-toponimi Albania ne TransKaukaz shpjegohet ne te njejten menyre: gjegjesisht burimet e shkruara antike flasin per vendosje fisesh perendim-lindje. Ne rastin konkret, Albanet ne fjale e kane origjinen ballkanike (Tacitu) ose "italike" (Justini). Albanet e atjeshem nderonin si krye-zot te tyrin Zeusin, ndaj kjo na ndihmon ma lehte me e nxjerre vendbanimin e tyre konkret qe duhet te kete qene Thesalia pellazgjike.
Ja cfare thote Tacitusi:
Their sole strength was in cavalry; Pharasmanes was also powerful in infantry, for the Iberians and Albanians, inhabiting as they did a densely wooded country, were more inured to hardship and endurance. They claim to have been descended from the Thessalians
, at the period when Jason, after the departure of Medea and the children born of her, returned subsequently to the empty palace of Aeetes, and the vacant kingdom of Colchi.
atque illis sola in equite vis: Pharasmanes et pedite valebat. nam Hiberi Albanique saltuosos locos incolentes duritiae patientiaeque magis insuevere; feruntque se Thessalis ortos
, qua tempestate Iaso post avectam Medeam genitosque ex ea liberos inanem mox regiam Aeetae vacuosque Colchos repetivit.