Kush eshte ky Henry Skene ?

[Picasso`]

The Albanians
Henry Skene
Journal of the Ethnological Society of London (1848-1856), Vol. 2. (1850).


The Albanians are divided into four tribes. These are, the Gheghides and Mirdites, the Toskides, the Tsamides, and the Liapides.

The Toskides are the most handsome of the Albanians. They have noble features, with fair hair and blue eyes, indicating the mixture of Georgian blood, which probably flows in their veins : less warlike than their countrymen of the other tribes, their stature is also less Herculean. They are supposed to have derived their name from the Toxidse, mentioned by Chardin as inhabiting Mingrelia.

The country now occupied by this tribe lies to the south of that of the Ghegs and Mirdites, and extends to the river Vojutza. It is called by themselves Toskouria. Their chief places are Elbassan and Berat, called by the Turks Arnaout Belgrad, in order to distinguish it from Belgrade on the Danube. Te-pellene, the birth-place of Ali Pasha, is now included in their territory, although it was formerly considered as belonging to the infamous Liapides.

The women of the Toske tribe are remarkable for their beauty, like those of Georgia, whence they issue, according to the conjecture of some antiquaries.


In their own language they call themselves Skipetar, which name bears some affinity with that of of the Skitekip, mentioned by the Armenian geographers as inhabiting a territory near the Caspian.

Journal of the Ethnological Society of London (1848-1856)
Royal Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland

http://www.albanianhistory.net/texts19/AH1848_2.html

http://www.archive.org/stream/edinbu...6edin_djvu.txt


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[Socio]

Ka qene nje diplomat dhe udhetar anglez !

Picasso, dua te te pyes: A e njeh anglishten ?

[Picasso`]

Ka qene nje diplomat dhe udhetar anglez !

Picasso, dua te te pyes: A e njeh anglishten ?

E di deri diku, por edhe sherbehem me google-translate...

Nuk mu duk i mire kontributi i ketij Henry.

[Socio]

E di deri diku, por edhe sherbehem me google-translate...

Nuk mu duk i mire kontributi i ketij Henry.

Faleminderit !

Jo, jo Z. Skene ka dhene nje pasqyre te mire mbi hipotezat per origjinen e shqiptareve, si dhe ka qene mjaft i sinqerte ne mendimin e tij.

Lexo ketu me poshte:

The Albanians
Henry Skene
Journal of the Ethnological Society of London (1848-1856), Vol. 2. (1850).


The Albanians are divided into four tribes. These are, the Gheghides and Mirdites, the Toskides, the Tsamides, and the Liapides.

The Toskides are the most handsome of the Albanians. They have noble features, with fair hair and blue eyes, indicating the mixture of Georgian blood, which probably flows in their veins : less warlike than their countrymen of the other tribes, their stature is also less Herculean. They are supposed to have derived their name from the Toxidse, mentioned by Chardin as inhabiting Mingrelia.

The country now occupied by this tribe lies to the south of that of the Ghegs and Mirdites, and extends to the river Vojutza. It is called by themselves Toskouria. Their chief places are Elbassan and Berat, called by the Turks Arnaout Belgrad, in order to distinguish it from Belgrade on the Danube. Te-pellene, the birth-place of Ali Pasha, is now included in their territory, although it was formerly considered as belonging to the infamous Liapides.

The women of the Toske tribe are remarkable for their beauty, like those of Georgia, whence they issue, according to the conjecture of some antiquaries.


In their own language they call themselves Skipetar, which name bears some affinity with that of of the Skitekip, mentioned by the Armenian geographers as inhabiting a territory near the Caspian.

Journal of the Ethnological Society of London (1848-1856)
Royal Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland

http://www.albanianhistory.net/texts19/AH1848_2.html

http://www.archive.org/stream/edinbu...6edin_djvu.txt


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edhe tash lexo textin e njejte:

In their own language they call themselves Skipetar, which name bears some affinity with that of the Skitekip, mentioned by the Armenian geographers as inhabiting a territory near the Caspian. One of the best authorities on the subject (Colonel Leake) compares the name of Skipetar with that of the Selapitani, a people of Illyria, noticed by Livy. The modern denomination of Liapides may be derived from this ancient tribe, rather than from the still more ancient Lapithae, as the name becomes almost the same when the first two letters are suppressed, and the termination, which is always variable, altered. A similarity of names, however, is but a feeble indication of the origin of a people or town, especially in a country where so many dialectic changes have taken place, and it often leads into error. For instance, there is a village near Elbassan, which bears the name of Pekin, without the slightest difference from that of the great city of the Celestial Empire; but it cannot be said, even by the wildest etymologist, to be inhabited by a people in any way kindred to the Chinese.

Te lutem tash perkthej keto qe ti nenvizova se nuk kam kohe ketu !



poashtu ai vazhdon me fjalet:

Another hypothesis holds that the Albanians derive their origin from Alba, in Italy, and that they are the descendants of a colony of the Praetorian guards, dismissed from Rome, by the Emperor Septimius Severus, for having been accessory to the assassination of Pertinax ...

dmth jep hipoteza

per mesazhin qe ma ke mbi legjenden kinse shqiptaret jane nga fisi i pejgamberit muhamed, do te pergjigjem me vone.

tung njehere mik.

[Picasso`]

E di deri diku, por edhe sherbehem me google-translate...

Nuk mu duk i mire kontributi i ketij Henry.

Faleminderit !

Jo, jo Z. Skene ka dhene nje pasqyre te mire mbi hipotezat per origjinen e shqiptareve, si dhe ka qene mjaft i sinqerte ne mendimin e tij.

Lexo ketu me poshte:

The Albanians
Henry Skene
Journal of the Ethnological Society of London (1848-1856), Vol. 2. (1850).


The Albanians are divided into four tribes. These are, the Gheghides and Mirdites, the Toskides, the Tsamides, and the Liapides.

The Toskides are the most handsome of the Albanians. They have noble features, with fair hair and blue eyes, indicating the mixture of Georgian blood, which probably flows in their veins : less warlike than their countrymen of the other tribes, their stature is also less Herculean. They are supposed to have derived their name from the Toxidse, mentioned by Chardin as inhabiting Mingrelia.

The country now occupied by this tribe lies to the south of that of the Ghegs and Mirdites, and extends to the river Vojutza. It is called by themselves Toskouria. Their chief places are Elbassan and Berat, called by the Turks Arnaout Belgrad, in order to distinguish it from Belgrade on the Danube. Te-pellene, the birth-place of Ali Pasha, is now included in their territory, although it was formerly considered as belonging to the infamous Liapides.

The women of the Toske tribe are remarkable for their beauty, like those of Georgia, whence they issue, according to the conjecture of some antiquaries.


In their own language they call themselves Skipetar, which name bears some affinity with that of of the Skitekip, mentioned by the Armenian geographers as inhabiting a territory near the Caspian.

Journal of the Ethnological Society of London (1848-1856)
Royal Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland

http://www.albanianhistory.net/texts19/AH1848_2.html

http://www.archive.org/stream/edinbu...6edin_djvu.txt


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edhe tash lexo textin e njejte:

In their own language they call themselves Skipetar, which name bears some affinity with that of the Skitekip, mentioned by the Armenian geographers as inhabiting a territory near the Caspian. One of the best authorities on the subject (Colonel Leake) compares the name of Skipetar with that of the Selapitani, a people of Illyria, noticed by Livy. The modern denomination of Liapides may be derived from this ancient tribe, rather than from the still more ancient Lapithae, as the name becomes almost the same when the first two letters are suppressed, and the termination, which is always variable, altered. A similarity of names, however, is but a feeble indication of the origin of a people or town, especially in a country where so many dialectic changes have taken place, and it often leads into error. For instance, there is a village near Elbassan, which bears the name of Pekin, without the slightest difference from that of the great city of the Celestial Empire; but it cannot be said, even by the wildest etymologist, to be inhabited by a people in any way kindred to the Chinese.

Te lutem tash perkthej keto qe ti nenvizova se nuk kam kohe ketu !



poashtu ai vazhdon me fjalet:

Another hypothesis holds that the Albanians derive their origin from Alba, in Italy, and that they are the descendants of a colony of the Praetorian guards, dismissed from Rome, by the Emperor Septimius Severus, for having been accessory to the assassination of Pertinax ...

dmth jep hipoteza

per mesazhin qe ma ke mbi legjenden kinse shqiptaret jane nga fisi i pejgamberit muhamed, do te pergjigjem me vone.

tung njehere mik.

Rofsh 100 her! Ose 100 vjet!

Faliminderit.

[Socio]

E di deri diku, por edhe sherbehem me google-translate...

Nuk mu duk i mire kontributi i ketij Henry.

Faleminderit !

Jo, jo Z. Skene ka dhene nje pasqyre te mire mbi hipotezat per origjinen e shqiptareve, si dhe ka qene mjaft i sinqerte ne mendimin e tij.

Lexo ketu me poshte:

The Albanians
Henry Skene
Journal of the Ethnological Society of London (1848-1856), Vol. 2. (1850).


The Albanians are divided into four tribes. These are, the Gheghides and Mirdites, the Toskides, the Tsamides, and the Liapides.

The Toskides are the most handsome of the Albanians. They have noble features, with fair hair and blue eyes, indicating the mixture of Georgian blood, which probably flows in their veins : less warlike than their countrymen of the other tribes, their stature is also less Herculean. They are supposed to have derived their name from the Toxidse, mentioned by Chardin as inhabiting Mingrelia.

The country now occupied by this tribe lies to the south of that of the Ghegs and Mirdites, and extends to the river Vojutza. It is called by themselves Toskouria. Their chief places are Elbassan and Berat, called by the Turks Arnaout Belgrad, in order to distinguish it from Belgrade on the Danube. Te-pellene, the birth-place of Ali Pasha, is now included in their territory, although it was formerly considered as belonging to the infamous Liapides.

The women of the Toske tribe are remarkable for their beauty, like those of Georgia, whence they issue, according to the conjecture of some antiquaries.


In their own language they call themselves Skipetar, which name bears some affinity with that of of the Skitekip, mentioned by the Armenian geographers as inhabiting a territory near the Caspian.

Journal of the Ethnological Society of London (1848-1856)
Royal Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland

http://www.albanianhistory.net/texts19/AH1848_2.html

http://www.archive.org/stream/edinbu...6edin_djvu.txt


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edhe tash lexo textin e njejte:

In their own language they call themselves Skipetar, which name bears some affinity with that of the Skitekip, mentioned by the Armenian geographers as inhabiting a territory near the Caspian. One of the best authorities on the subject (Colonel Leake) compares the name of Skipetar with that of the Selapitani, a people of Illyria, noticed by Livy. The modern denomination of Liapides may be derived from this ancient tribe, rather than from the still more ancient Lapithae, as the name becomes almost the same when the first two letters are suppressed, and the termination, which is always variable, altered. A similarity of names, however, is but a feeble indication of the origin of a people or town, especially in a country where so many dialectic changes have taken place, and it often leads into error. For instance, there is a village near Elbassan, which bears the name of Pekin, without the slightest difference from that of the great city of the Celestial Empire; but it cannot be said, even by the wildest etymologist, to be inhabited by a people in any way kindred to the Chinese.

Te lutem tash perkthej keto qe ti nenvizova se nuk kam kohe ketu !



poashtu ai vazhdon me fjalet:

Another hypothesis holds that the Albanians derive their origin from Alba, in Italy, and that they are the descendants of a colony of the Praetorian guards, dismissed from Rome, by the Emperor Septimius Severus, for having been accessory to the assassination of Pertinax ...

dmth jep hipoteza

per mesazhin qe ma ke mbi legjenden kinse shqiptaret jane nga fisi i pejgamberit muhamed, do te pergjigjem me vone.

tung njehere mik.

Rofsh 100 her! Ose 100 vjet!

Faliminderit.

Edhe ti rrofsh !!

Qe jepja u Bulgareve modern kete citim nga Henry Skene:

The Bulgarians are a race of Sclavonian origin, and are supposed by some to have been a tribe of the Huns ...
The Bulgarians crossed the Danube before the reign of Justinian, and kept constantly pouring down from the vast plains of Poland, Lithuania, and Russia, during the sixth century; and they continued gradually gaining ground in the fine countries of Macedonia and Illyria, until the fall of the Byzantine empire. Their relations with the emperors were those of peace, when it was purchased by the latter, or of hostilities generally successful on their part; and they consequently overran a large part of the empire. They made a permanent alliance in the year 360, with Michael the Third, which stipulated, by treaty, their conversion to Christianity; and, on the other hand, the grant to them of a tract of hilly country around Mount Rhodope, to which they gave the name of Zagorá, still extant. In the tenth century they are said by the Emperor Constantine Porphyrogeunctus to have occupied even the Peloponnesus, and he dates their possession of it from the time of the Emperor Constantine Copronymus, in the eighth century. The epitomiser of Strabo, who wrote in the time of Basil Bulgaroctonus, that is about the year 1000, goes further, and gives the whole of Greece to the Bulgarians, whom he calls Scythian Sclavonians. They established their capital at Achris or Achrida,(1) the ancient Lychnides, and, their chief, by name Peter, was dignified with the title of King by the Emperor Romanus, who gave him also his granddaughter in marriage. When this town was destroyed by Basil the Second, at the opening of the eleventh century, a treasure was found by him there, amounting to the weight of ten thousand pounds in gold. The Bulgarians had driven the Albanians back to the more mountainous tracts of country, but the destruction of their capital Achris enabled the latter to gain head again, and it is then that they first appear on the page of history as acting a conspicuous part.

http://www.albanianhistory.net/texts19/AH1848_2.html



Ref:

(1) OHRI

[Sturmgewehr]

The Albanians
Henry Skene
Journal of the Ethnological Society of London (1848-1856), Vol. 2. (1850).


The Albanians are divided into four tribes. These are, the Gheghides and Mirdites, the Toskides, the Tsamides, and the Liapides.

The Toskides are the most handsome of the Albanians. They have noble features, with fair hair and blue eyes, indicating the mixture of Georgian blood, which probably flows in their veins : less warlike than their countrymen of the other tribes, their stature is also less Herculean. They are supposed to have derived their name from the Toxidse, mentioned by Chardin as inhabiting Mingrelia.

The country now occupied by this tribe lies to the south of that of the Ghegs and Mirdites, and extends to the river Vojutza. It is called by themselves Toskouria. Their chief places are Elbassan and Berat, called by the Turks Arnaout Belgrad, in order to distinguish it from Belgrade on the Danube. Te-pellene, the birth-place of Ali Pasha, is now included in their territory, although it was formerly considered as belonging to the infamous Liapides.

The women of the Toske tribe are remarkable for their beauty, like those of Georgia, whence they issue, according to the conjecture of some antiquaries.


In their own language they call themselves Skipetar, which name bears some affinity with that of of the Skitekip, mentioned by the Armenian geographers as inhabiting a territory near the Caspian.

Journal of the Ethnological Society of London (1848-1856)
Royal Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland

http://www.albanianhistory.net/texts19/AH1848_2.html

http://www.archive.org/stream/edinbu...6edin_djvu.txt


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@ SOCIO:


O dajo aj na sqaro pse leshin ky po flet per keto Gjeorgjianet e felliqt edhe na perzjen me Gjeorgjianet???? ky a eshte ne terezi apo e ka len mendja fare?????????

une lirisht do thoja se AUtori se ka pas iden se cka po shkruan edhe nga vet fakti qe ky autor i cili ka shkruar kete nuk eshte as Antropolog as Historian kurse njeri koti veq ja ka fut kot edhe pak do na krahasoje me Xhengis Kanin.

In their own language they call themselves Skipetar, which name bears some affinity with that of of the Skitekip, mentioned by the Armenian geographers as inhabiting a territory near the Caspian.

kukuuu se e ka len mendja ket na shpuri ne Dagestan hahahahahahhahaha bash atje ku duan te na cojn Sllaevt, se mir e kan ato ka nji Albania atie ne Dagestan.

Shofe more i felliquri sa palidhje ka shkrujt, po mbasi e ka sghkrujt gjith kete gje ky lal pse nuk na prezenton fakte konkrete ose te beje nje krahasim me gjuhet te ketyre dy vnedeve??????

[Arbëri]

Socio , më fal por edhe në atë text qe ke postuar më lart nuk shofi gjë të mirë për prejardhjen tonë.
Më habit se si është ky text ne Albanian history ?