Quota per shqiptaret.

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Very much later there came the waves of Slavs and drove the Albanians, who were scattered all over the Balkan Peninsula, to the western part of modern European Turkey, where they live now. (The Missionary review of the world: Volume 34, 1911)

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Migrations and invasions in Greece and adjacent areas, Nicholas Geoffrey Lemprière Hammond, 1976, p.163: "Illyrian has survived. Geography has played a large part in that survival; for the mountains of Montenegro and northern Albania have supplied the almost impenetrable home base of the Illyrian-speaking peoples. They were probably the first occupants, apart from nomadic hunters, of the Accursed Mountains and their fellow peaks, and they maintained their independence when migrants such as the Slavs occupied the more fertile lowlands and the highland basins. Their language may lack the cultural qualities of Greek, but it has equalled it in its power to survive and it too is adapting itself under the name of Albanian to the conditions of the modern world."

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The first mention of Albanians in documents is from 1079 A.D. and refers to the territory between Ochrida and Thessalonike, and to Epirus. In present day Albania (in its northern part), they were for the first time described in the 13th century. The analysis of placenames and geographical names suggests that they lived, during the first centuries of Roman conquering on the Balkan peninsula, (also) in the northern part of present day Albania; according to Georg Stadtmüller, the center of the ancient Albanians was the area of the river Mati. There are a number of ancient Albanian geographical names in Albania, for example the river Bunë (cf. Albanian buenë, bujenë "inundation"), or Sar Planina, from Greek suggests that they lived in contact with Greeks. A large number of placenames in Macedonia and parts of Serbia show typically Albanian features: Stip, from Greek It is significant that, in contrast to Rumanian, there are Latin loanwords in Albanian which show a very ancient sound pattern, from the 1st century B.C.: Lat. cingula >Albanian qingëlë; vetus, veteris > vjetër etc. The Romance languages have inherited these words from Vulgar Latin, thus N. Rumanian chinga 'belly band, saddle girth', from *cingla; batrân 'old' from veteran, etc. - Cf. I. Popovic, Geschichte der Serbokroatischen Sprache, 1960, pp. 79-85; G. Stadtmüller, Forschungen zur albanischen Frühgeschichte, 1966; A. Rosetti, Istoria limbii române, 1986, pp. 195-197.

(Transylvania and the Rumanians, Alain Du Nay, André Du Nay, Árpád Kosztin, 1997, p.38)

http://www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/pas/pas05.htm

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"Albanians, however,a re one of southeastern Europe's oldest inhabitants. It is believed that they descended from the Illyrians, who in a series of migration waves settled in what is now Albania around 1200 BC". (Greece, Zoran Pavlović, Charles F. Gritzner,2006, Page 46

Kjo eshte komplet idiotesi!
Meqe keta palo historiane nuk kane deshire apo mundesi te hetojne periudhat para 1200 BC e kane vene kete si date standarte per ardhjen e Ilireve ne Ballkan,kur ne te vertete nuk ka asnje fare te dhene qe Iliret kane ardhur ne Ballkan gjate 1200 BC,perkundrazi germimet tregojne se Iliret kane qene te vendosur ne keto zona shume me pare se 1200 BC.

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Kjo eshte komplet idiotesi!
Meqe keta palo historiane nuk kane deshire apo mundesi te hetojne periudhat para 1200 BC e kane vene kete si date standarte per ardhjen e Ilireve ne Ballkan,kur ne te vertete nuk ka asnje fare te dhene qe Iliret kane ardhur ne Ballkan gjate 1200 BC,perkundrazi germimet tregojne se Iliret kane qene te vendosur ne keto zona shume me pare se 1200 BC.

Erix, citatin e apostrofuar nuk e solla per saktesine e tij ("ardhja" e ilireve) por ma shume per te rrite numrin e citateve qe konfirmojne lidhjet iliro-shqiptare. Me erdhi te qaj, nje dite kur pashe ne nje 'wiki-discussion' mungesen e tmerrshme te citateve nga ana e shqiptareve. Nga ana tjeter, greket dhe serbet (te cilet e editonin or e cast) kishin plot citate te shkeputuna per interesat e tyne. Keshtu nese per asgje tjeter, te pakten keto citate te mbledhuna mund te sherbejne si mundesi qe nese biem ne kontakt me shqiptar qe kane qasje ne wikipedia, te ndryshojne permbajtjen e tmerrshme te saj.

P.S: S'ka kurrfare indikatori te ardhjes se ilireve ne Ballkan. Ardhja e tyre eshte nje skeme e marrezishme e indo-europianisteve dhe filo-heleneve. Per me teper ne saje te te gjithe provave, deshmohet lidhja proto-ilir - pellazg.

Following the collapse of the Roman Empire and the weakening of the Byzantine Empire, the Illyrian-speaking peoples expanded once again into the Mat valley and Muzeqe plain. By then they were known to thier southern neighbors as Albani, and thier language as Albanian."


The Albanians: A Modern History, 2001, Page 2, by Miranda Vickers

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The Illyrians were a group of tribal peoples who inhabited present- day Albania, the former Yugoslav republics, ... The only modern descendant of the Illyrian group of languages is Albanian.

World and Its Peoples, 2009, p. 1602 

The Albanians are probably an ethnic outcropping of the Illyrians. They were an ancient Balkan people who intermingled and made war with the Greeks, Thracians, and Macedonians before succumbing to Roman rule around the...

Encyclopaedia of the Muslim World - Page 39

Taru Bahl, M.H. Syed - 2003

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AgrianShigjetari une nuk e kisha me ty por me ata persona qe mundohen tu japin Ilireve si date prodhimi 1200 BC me qellimin e vetem per te mos lejuar qe Iliret te konsiderohen me te vjeter se greket,perkundrazi une te falenderoj shume per punen e mrekullueshme qe po ben me sjelljen e gjithe ketyre materialeve te rendesishme.

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The original home of the Dorians before they appeared in Thcssaly and Doris is by many thought to have been Illyria.The ancients thus associated Hellenic origins with Illyria. The Illyric type par excellence to-day is the Albanian.That the Albanians of Upper Albania have been in their present habitat since before the memory of man...

The annual of the British School at Athens: Issue 16, British School at Athens, British School at Athens. Managing Committee - 1910

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The population of Thessaly has been estimated at 300,000 ; that of Epirus at 400,000; which, added to that of Greece Proper, would form an aggregate of 1,250,000. Of the population of Greece and Macedonia, taking one province with another, the Greeks were formerly supposed to form about a third, two-thirds being Albanians and Turks. In some parts of the Morea, especially Messenia and Elis, the Moslem, prior to the revolution, outnumbered the Christians; in Thessaly and Epirus, they slightly preponderated; in Attica and Boeotia, the Christians were supposed to be 10 in 11; and in Crete, out of 280,000, 130,000 were Greeks.

A dictionary of geography, ancient and modern By Josiah Conder

http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA265& ... utput=text

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CORFU. (The ancient Corcyra.) The first in rank, and the second in size, of the Ionian Islands, situated very near the coast of Albania, at the entrance of the Adriatic. The channel by which it is separated from the main land, is very narrow at its northern extremity, bat widens into a magnificent basin ; the eastern coast of the island, as well as the opposite coast of Albania, being deeply imbayed ; while ike southern extremity of Corfu again approximates to the main. The island is of very irregular figure, about 15 miles in length and 8 miles across at its widest part. The interior is mountainous. The loftiest range runs from E. to W. across the northern part, forming a contiauation of the great Acroceraunian chain. A somewhat lower range, branching off nearly at a right angle, traverses the length of the island, terminating southward in the lofty mass of Mount Deca. The western coast is very bold ; and from the mountains which form it, the eeneral surface of the island slopes down gradually to the sea-snore on the eastern coast, giving an eastern aspect to the greater portion of the island, and displaying nearly the whole to a voyager passing op the Strait. The town of Corfu, the capital of the Ionian Republic, and the see of an archbishop, is situated on the eastern shore, at the foot of a promontory terminating in a remarkable double rock, upon wkicii the citadel is built. The town is walled, and has been strongly fortified, so as to be capable of being rendered nearly impregnable. Internally, it is ill built, and, in proportion to its size, one of the mranest in construction in the Mediterranean, as well as miserably dirty : it contains about 17,000 inhabitants. Lord Guilford has established a uni\erstty here under the auspices of the British Government. The total population of the island is supposed to be about 60,000,—the same as that of Cephalonia.

A dictionary of geography, ancient and modern By Josiah Conder

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'Albania: A Narrative of Recent Travel' by Edward Frederick Knight

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"Old tombs of the prehistoric Pelasgi have been recently discovered near Sparta in Attica. Greek is scarcely spoken among the people, who are altogether Albanian, the same as the old Pelasgi". (Lights and Shadows of Ancient European Mythology, Language and History
By Elizabeth Wilson, p.64)

“…Albania, whose people are probably the oldest inhabitants of the peninsula have even been indentified by some with the ancient Pelasgi…” (Travels and Politics in the Near East, William Miller, p.208)

"...the principal proof of this Pelasgic origin to be the relation between the Albanian language and the most ancient Greek mythology..."
The Fortnightly, 1885

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The Albanians are by some supposed to be the descendants of the ancient Pelasgi, and of a far purer race than are the modern Greeks. From the uniformly classic features of the people I should be inclined to adopt this view.

Albania: A Narrative of Recent Travel - Page 124
Edward Frederick Knight - 2005

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The Albanians are perhaps the oldest race in southeastern Europe and the people of today are quite possibly descendants of the so-called Pelasgi, the early inhabitants of Greece and neighboring countries.

Fairclough - Page 366, Warming Both Hands

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The ancestors of the Albanians were the ancient Illyrians, who dwelled along the eastern coast of the Adriatic Sea, from Epirus as far north as Panno- nia. The Greek geographer of the second century ad, Ptolemy, mentioned an Albanian tribe with a city Albanopolis. The name of these Albanians was in the eleventh century extended to the rest of ancient Illyrians. This people was called in Greek, Albanoi, Arbanoi, or Albanitai, Arbanitai; in Latin, Arbanenses or Albanenses; from the Latin or Roman from comes the Slavonic Arbanasi, in modern Greek Arvanitis, in Turkish Arnaut. [History of the Byzantine Empire, 324-1453, Volume 2 By Aleksandr Aleksandrovich Vasilʹev,1952 p. 613

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And now of those great Thracian families, once so famous and powerful, and so widely spread over the Thraco-Illyrian penninsula and Asia Minor, all that survives is a few incosnderable remnants of Albanians and Arnauts in Epirus and Macedonia. ~The Gentile and the Jew in the Courts of the Temple of Christ: An ... By Johann J. Döllinger, p.41