"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

SHQIPERIA DHE SHQIPTARET NEPER HARTA KLASIKE

Sillni harta historike fiziko-politike-etnografike, që pasqyrojnë realitetin etnik dhe politik të një rajoni të caktuar, në një periudhë të caktuar.

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Post by Zeus10 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:16 pm

Po e sjell dhe njehere, me te detajuar, harten e punuar me 1861 nga G.Lejean:


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Falemnderit Zeus! Harta eshte reale sa i perket jugut, por eshte teper e pasakte sa i perket veriut sidomos
basenin qendror te Kosoves qe e paraqet si serb eshte jashtezakonisht gabim. Gjitashtu edhe nga ana lindore pasaktesite jane mese evidente, per shkak se prania e shqiptare eshte zhdukur krejt pervec nje njolle ne qytetin e Prilepit. (A ne fakt babai romantik i "kombit maqedonas" G.Pulevski ne shenimet e tij thote se kufiri mes Shqiperise dhe Bullgarise duhet kerkuar te malet e Jakupices.
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ALBPelasgian wrote:Falemnderit Zeus! Harta eshte reale sa i perket jugut, por eshte teper e pasakte sa i perket veriut sidomos
basenin qendror te Kosoves qe e paraqet si serb eshte jashtezakonisht gabim.
Ashtu eshte Albpelasgian, baseni serb eshte i egzagjeruar, por nga ana tjeter shiko se sa thelle brenda Serbise shkojne tokat e banuara nga shqiptaret:

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Pa dyshim qe ato territore qe tani i njihen Serbise si te pamohueshme, jane rezultat i veprimtarise te pastrimit etnik ne fund te shek. te 19, kurse baseni Serbe ne Kosove duket qart qe eshte 'mish i huaj' ne ate trup, i ardhur nga pushtimi dhe jo natyrshmeria.
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Post by Zeus10 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:50 pm

Nuk ka se si Podujeva te jete serbe, ajo asnjehere ska qene. Te pakten 150 vjetet e fundit, statistikat thone per te, te kete qene e pabanuar prej serbeve.
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Materiali qe do sjell ne vijim nuk eshte harte, por eshte nje cope teksti me nje informate
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Post by Socio » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:55 am

Shqiperia ne 'Carte del'Europe' nga Chatelain, H.A. Viti 1720 !

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Harte e vitit 1813 nga libri:1st Edition ~ Hobhouse's Classic Travel with Byron
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Abraham Ortelius

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Pjese po nga e njejta harte.

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1879 MITCHELL


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TURQUIE EUROPEENNE Robert de Vaugondy ,Geographe-(viti 1700)


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Roman Map - Orbis Terrarum, 20 A.D.
This is a reconstruction of a map of the Roman Empire, known as the Orbis Terrarum. Romans tended to care less about geographic accuracy and more about its political and military practicality when making maps, as can be seen here.



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World Map According to Dionysius, 124 A.D.
This reconstruction of a world map was created by Dionysius, a Greek poet, showing the world as one long island extending from Iceland to Libya, and placing it entirely north of the equator.




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World Map According to Pomponius Mela, 37 A.D.
This reconstruction of a world map was created by Pomponius Mela, a Roman Cartographer, who believed there were southern areas of the world that were not accessible to Europeans because of the desert regions between them. Africa in those days hadn't been explored much further south than Egypt.



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Post by Mallakastrioti » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:18 pm

Autor: J. Zuallart
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