"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
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Post by Leka SHQIP » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:39 pm

Nje pyetje per alefko subarakun


1. Greqishtja artificiale koine u krijua rreth vitit 400 para k. Po latinishtja ne cfare viti eshte krijuar rreth 300 para k. apo kur saktesisht?

2. Nuk ishin dijetaret e kohes se lashtesise mire me jonishten, dorishten, eolishten perse e shpiken artificialisht greqishten koine kur edhe dialektet jon, dor eol sherbenin mbrekullisht per te shkruajtur diturite?

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Post by alfeko sukaraku » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:00 pm

leke..per gjuhen greke kam hapur nje teme ne forum "Historia e Gjuhes Greke" edhe jam bazuar ne njohurit e dijetarve me te medhenj bashkekohore..gjeje temen edhe dijesohu.

Per latinishten edhe kalimin nga etruskishtja tek latinishtja ka plote dokumente qe tregojn kete kalim, vecse dijetaret romak jane me komunista se lenini edhe me fanatik se serbet kur flasin per romen e mbrekullit e saja.
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Post by Hellassoldier » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:54 pm

Leka SHQIP wrote:Nje pyetje per alefko subarakun


1. Greqishtja artificiale koine u krijua rreth vitit 400 para k. Po latinishtja ne cfare viti eshte krijuar rreth 300 para k. apo kur saktesisht?

2. Nuk ishin dijetaret e kohes se lashtesise mire me jonishten, dorishten, eolishten perse e shpiken artificialisht greqishten koine kur edhe dialektet jon, dor eol sherbenin mbrekullisht per te shkruajtur diturite?
Is there any reason talking about Greeks most of your topics, beside eager to steal our history?

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Post by Arta » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:02 pm

Hellassoldier wrote:
Leka SHQIP wrote:Nje pyetje per alefko subarakun


1. Greqishtja artificiale koine u krijua rreth vitit 400 para k. Po latinishtja ne cfare viti eshte krijuar rreth 300 para k. apo kur saktesisht?

2. Nuk ishin dijetaret e kohes se lashtesise mire me jonishten, dorishten, eolishten perse e shpiken artificialisht greqishten koine kur edhe dialektet jon, dor eol sherbenin mbrekullisht per te shkruajtur diturite?
Is there any reason talking about Greeks most of your topics, beside eager to steal our history?
Your history?! It's his right to ask any question he pleases and if it has to do with "ancient greek", then he is asking about his own as well!
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Post by alfeko sukaraku » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:03 pm

Hellassoldier wrote:
Leka SHQIP wrote:Nje pyetje per alefko subarakun


1. Greqishtja artificiale koine u krijua rreth vitit 400 para k. Po latinishtja ne cfare viti eshte krijuar rreth 300 para k. apo kur saktesisht?

2. Nuk ishin dijetaret e kohes se lashtesise mire me jonishten, dorishten, eolishten perse e shpiken artificialisht greqishten koine kur edhe dialektet jon, dor eol sherbenin mbrekullisht per te shkruajtur diturite?
Is there any reason talking about Greeks most of your topics, beside eager to steal our history?
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Post by alfeko sukaraku » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:05 pm

Arta wrote:
Hellassoldier wrote:
Leka SHQIP wrote:Nje pyetje per alefko subarakun


1. Greqishtja artificiale koine u krijua rreth vitit 400 para k. Po latinishtja ne cfare viti eshte krijuar rreth 300 para k. apo kur saktesisht?

2. Nuk ishin dijetaret e kohes se lashtesise mire me jonishten, dorishten, eolishten perse e shpiken artificialisht greqishten koine kur edhe dialektet jon, dor eol sherbenin mbrekullisht per te shkruajtur diturite?
Is there any reason talking about Greeks most of your topics, beside eager to steal our history?
Your history?! It's his right to ask any question he pleases and if it has to do with "ancient greek", then he is asking about his own as well!
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Post by Zeus10 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:09 pm

Hellassoldier wrote:
Is there any reason talking about Greeks most of your topics, beside eager to steal our history?
No, our efforts consist on redirecting the study of the history in its genuine track, and giving credits for it to the legitime people: the Albanians, who are the original descendants of the old people, including the so called Hellenes. The only perpetrators of the falsified history are the ones who follow the dogma: "An old and modern hellene is the same", and some other similar too cliche things.
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Post by Mallakastrioti » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:13 pm

Jane bere te ditur keta ore Alfeko...perdorin google translator tani,jo vetem turko-grekçen e sotme.

Ok Hellassoldier,can you bring some facts about what Leka Shqip asked?
What do you know from historical sources about Ionian,Aeolian and Doric language?
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Post by alfeko sukaraku » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:20 pm

nuk e besoj mallakastrioti, besoj se ai e kupton shqipen ndaj i futi turinjet...nejse , shume sakte ju pergjigjen Arta Zeusi edhe ti.
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Post by Hellassoldier » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:21 pm

Mallakastrioti wrote:Jane bere te ditur keta ore Alfeko...perdorin google translator tani,jo vetem turko-grekçen e sotme.

Ok Hellassoldier,can you bring some facts about what Leka Shqip asked?
What do you know from historical sources about Ionian,Aeolian and Doric language?
Those are dialects of the Greek language in an early status.

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Post by Hymniarber » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:23 pm

Do ju lutesha mos ti jepni reputacion negativ ketij grekut.
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Post by Mallakastrioti » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:25 pm

Hellassoldier wrote:
Mallakastrioti wrote:Jane bere te ditur keta ore Alfeko...perdorin google translator tani,jo vetem turko-grekçen e sotme.

Ok Hellassoldier,can you bring some facts about what Leka Shqip asked?
What do you know from historical sources about Ionian,Aeolian and Doric language?
Those are dialects of the Greek language in an early status.

And that's all?
We wish to know more in what you pretende to know.And do you know thus "dialects" of "greek language"?Those "dialects" still to be in your language till now?Are you fluent to read and understand the Homer's verses?
What about Lemnos steel---can you translate for us?
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Post by Hellassoldier » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:30 pm

Our language was evolved in the actual status and it's been spoken for thousands years in many dialects.

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Post by alfeko sukaraku » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:37 pm

Hellassoldier wrote:Our language was evolved in the actual status and it's been spoken for thousands years in many dialects.
thousands?????

whate about pelasgian?

and for whate the homerian rapsody do not writte for the first time to the grek language?
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Post by alfeko sukaraku » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:55 pm

ionian-karian-likian-eteokratan..all this dialects arent greek dialects, but at the history we must coll grek whatever unknow language

so , the ionian dialect is not the same with the grek language:
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