"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

Etimologjia e fjales.

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Ky eshte emer i pervecem Mallakastrioti, megjithate shume i ngjashem me disa emra qe perdoren ne Cameri dhe Laberi: Fehmi. Une nuk e di cdo te thote ky emer ne turqisht, por ajo eshte nje folje ne Greqishten e Vjeter, folja them:
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Mallakastrioti wrote:Doja te te falenderoja perzemersisht Zeus per fjalet dhe sqarimet e tua.

Le te vazhdojme atehere si me poshte me fjalen Fëmi(ja):

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qe ishte femia i Terpis ..ishte ore ishte ,se keshtu e tregon historia.Por nuk ka lidhje me shqipen "femija"...ka lidhje me "Fimios ishte djali i Terpis", pra emri "fimios" edhe jo fjala "femija" 8-)
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Zeus:

tjeter gje fimi edhe tjeter gje "Fimios"

fimi perdoret edhe sote si fjale greke..eko tin fimi-kam emer-jam i njohur-i degjuar
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Shiko sa pak ndryshon fjala: "thash (dhe) them" [thashethem] nga ajo e """greqishtes""":
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:D ...ndoshta nuk ka lidhje kjo----por edhe ndoshta ka ku i dihet:

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Mallakastrioti wrote::D ---keto jane me te bukura fare:

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...dhe BINGOooooooooooooo...fjala GJUETAR dhe GJUETI---

mbahuni fort -haha-

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sa per qenin e ke goditur qerratan, por ai qeni i dyte eshte "kryeqeni" edhe jo ashtu sic e thoni ju.

igjetis=lideri-kryeja, balli qenve..kemi plote ne shqiperi qene bir qenash -hahaha-
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alfeko sukaraku wrote:Zeus:

tjeter gje fimi edhe tjeter gje "Fimios"

fimi perdoret edhe sote si fjale greke..eko tin fimi-kam emer-jam i njohur-i degjuar
Po pra ate po them dhe une, qe Φήμιος (Phemius), eshte i biri i Terpis

kurse folja fimi--> deklaroj, them, bej te ditur qe ne greqishten e vjeter eshte shqiptuar femi, eshte shume e ngjashme me foljen shqipe them.
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alfeko sukaraku wrote:
Mallakastrioti wrote::D ---keto jane me te bukura fare:

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...dhe BINGOooooooooooooo...fjala GJUETAR dhe GJUETI---

mbahuni fort -haha-

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sa per qenin e ke goditur qerratan, por ai qeni i dyte eshte "kryeqeni" edhe jo ashtu sic e thoni ju.

igjetis=lideri-kryeja, balli qenve..kemi plote ne shqiperi qene bir qenash -hahaha-

:D e mire e thashe derbardhe---qeni qe gjen---kryeqeni,se mos jam kunder qe ka plot tek ne?
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Mallakastrioti wrote::D ...ndoshta nuk ka lidhje kjo----por edhe ndoshta ka ku i dihet:

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Yper-Iper..ana e siperme.."hipur"

fjala ruhet edhe ne greqishten e sotme me kuptimin...larte-siper, ndersa shqipja "siper" eshte me prane fjales se vjeter "iper"
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Zeus10 wrote:
alfeko sukaraku wrote:Zeus:

tjeter gje fimi edhe tjeter gje "Fimios"

fimi perdoret edhe sote si fjale greke..eko tin fimi-kam emer-jam i njohur-i degjuar
Po pra ate po them dhe une, qe Φήμιος (Phemius), eshte i biri i Terpis

kurse folja fimi--> deklaroj, them, bej te ditur qe ne greqishten e vjeter eshte shqiptuar femi, eshte shume e ngjashme me foljen shqipe them.
njera forem , pasi shqipja e ruan ne origjinal foljen e lashte pellazge "them"
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alfeko sukaraku wrote:
Mallakastrioti wrote::D ---keto jane me te bukura fare:

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...dhe BINGOooooooooooooo...fjala GJUETAR dhe GJUETI---

mbahuni fort -haha-

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derman

sa per qenin e ke goditur qerratan, por ai qeni i dyte eshte "kryeqeni" edhe jo ashtu sic e thoni ju.

igjetis=lideri-kryeja, balli qenve..kemi plote ne shqiperi qene bir qenash -hahaha-

Pavaresisht Alfeko, megjithese igjemon do te thote kryetar ne ""greqisht"" ajo buron nga folja shqipe gjej, sepse prijesi gjen rrugen.

ἄγω--> perkthehet udheheq, por ne fakt eshte gjej:


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Ndoshta kjo eshte shume e njohur...


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Ja ku eshte fjala ne nje tekst ""grek"":

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ἴτε καὶ σφαγίων τῶνδ᾽ ὑπὸ σεμνῶν
κατὰ γῆς σύμεναι τὸ μὲν ἀτηρὸν
χώρας κατέχειν, τὸ δὲ κερδαλέον
πέμπειν πόλεως ἐπὶ νίκῃ.
ὑμεῖς δ᾽ ἡγεῖσθε, πολισσοῦχοι
παῖδες Κραναοῦ, ταῖσδε μετοίκοις.
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ἀγαθὴ διάνοια πολίταις.

Sic shihet folja ἡγέομαι ka si rrenje γέ (gje) qe ne menyren tjeter ἡγεῖσθε ka perseri rrenje fjalen gjej.
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Zeus10 wrote:
alfeko sukaraku wrote:
Mallakastrioti wrote::D ---keto jane me te bukura fare:

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...dhe BINGOooooooooooooo...fjala GJUETAR dhe GJUETI---

mbahuni fort -haha-

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derman

sa per qenin e ke goditur qerratan, por ai qeni i dyte eshte "kryeqeni" edhe jo ashtu sic e thoni ju.

igjetis=lideri-kryeja, balli qenve..kemi plote ne shqiperi qene bir qenash -hahaha-

Pavaresisht Alfeko, megjithese igjemon do te thote kryetar ne ""greqisht"" ajo buron nga folja shqipe gjej, sepse prijesi gjen rrugen.

ἄγω--> perkthehet udheheq, por ne fakt eshte gjej:


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ka nje mundesi nepermijet fjales "igjen-iqen-hiqen"...pasi "gj" nuk ka ekzistuar me sa njohim te pakten
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Mallakastrioti wrote:Ndoshta kjo eshte shume e njohur...


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pamvarsisht se eshte thuajse e njejta me emrin ekzistues pellazg "ylli" serisht kemi te bejm me fjaalen "lenda" edhe ne rastin tone -lenda e drurit.
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