"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

Etimologji Indoeuropiane

Diskutim profesional për gjuhën.
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Tema është për etimologjitë indoeuropiane, nga cila gjuhë rrjedh një fjalë e caktuar etj.

Po fillojmë me "hyll".

Kjo tek shqipja tregon karakterin e saj kentum, kurse në gjuhët tjera fillon me S, psh Sol, Solnce, Sunce, Son, Sun, etj, dhe tregon që gjuhët tjera janë më tepër satem.

Pos kësaj edhe fjala 'qind' futet në kentum.
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Kolivilor wrote:Tema është për etimologjitë indoeuropiane, nga cila gjuhë rrjedh një fjalë e caktuar etj.

Po fillojmë me "hyll".

Kjo tek shqipja tregon karakterin e saj kentum, kurse në gjuhët tjera fillon me S, psh Sol, Solnce, Sunce, Son, Sun, etj, dhe tregon që gjuhët tjera janë më tepër satem.

Pos kësaj edhe fjala 'qind' futet në kentum.
Per te justifikuar kete indoevropianistet i kane dale te keqes perpara, megjithese prape ne menyre konfuze:

[quote2="indoeuropianists"]The isogloss only applies to the parent language with the full inventory of dorsals.[/quote2]

por perseri ngelet pa shpjegim pse frengjishtja dhe spanjishtja, qe perdorin sibilante ne theksimin e njeqintes, klasifikohen perseri centum.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=sun

sun (n.)
O.E. sunne, from P.Gmc. *sunnon (cf. O.N., O.S., O.H.G. sunna, M.Du. sonne, Du. zon, Ger. Sonne, Goth. sunno), from PIE *s(u)wen- (cf. Avestan xueng "sun," O.Ir. fur-sunnud "lighting up"), alternative form of base *saewel- "to shine, sun" (see Sol). O.E. sunne was fem., and the fem. pronoun was used until 16c.; since then masc. has prevailed. The empire on which the sun never sets (1630) originally was the Spanish, later the British. To have one's place in the sun (1680s) is from Pascal's "Pensées"; the Ger. imperial foreign policy sense (1897) is from a speech by von Bülow. The U.S. Sunbelt is first recorded 1969. Sunlight is first recorded c.1200. Sunbeam was in O.E.; sunset first recorded 1390 (sundown is from 1620); sunrise is first found mid-15c. (sun-up is from 1712). Sundial is from 1590s. Sunspot in ref. to the solar phenomenon is from 1868. Egg served sunny side up first attested 1900. Sunroof of a car is from 1966.
sun (v.)
1519, "to set something in the sun," from sun (n.). Meaning "to expose oneself to the sun" is recorded from 1610. Sun-bathing is attested from 1600. Sun-tan (v.) is recorded from 1821; the noun is first attested 1904. Sunburn (v.) is from sunne y-brent (c.1400).
[i]Nuk jam katolik Italian, nuk jam mysliman turk e as nuk jam ortodoks grek, por jam ateist shqiptar.[/i]
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Tek njëqinta është një ndryshim thelbësor mes dy grupeve.

Grupi lindor Balto-sllavo-indo-pers përdor S në vend të K, dhe N mungon fare.

Sllavisht - Sto
Persishte vjetër - Satem
Indisht - Sau
Latvisht - Simc
Lituanisht - Shimtas

Mundësia më e mirë është që kjo të jetë një fjalë e substratit uralik, duke qenë se në finishte është Sata, dhe në estonishte Sada, ose ndodh që edhe këto dyja e kanë marrë nga ne duke e kthyer në satem.

Nga ana tjetër Kentum, duhet të jetë e rrënjës së mirëfilltë IE dmth shqip.

Shqip - Qind
Greqisht - Hekaton
Latinisht - Kentum
Gjerman- Hundred
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