elikranon wrote:Kur thua grek i lashte, dicka te shkon ne mendje, njerit mund te vej ne mendje lufta e Trojes
Nuk kam degjuar qe ne Luften e Trojes te kene marre pjese greket, gjithmone nese Lufta e Trojes ka ndodhur vertete
tjetrit Homeri,
Eshte e veshtire te provosh qe Homeri ka egzistuar vertete, por dhe ne ka egzistuar ai nuk e ka perdorur fare termin Helenë ne veprat e tij, me perjashtim te nje rasti ku cilesonte nje fis te vogel te cilin ai e quante pellazgjik. Gjithe te tjeret i quante Akej qe kishin si shtepi te tyre ARGOSIN:
[col]Then all the rest of the Achaeans shouted assent, to reverence the priest and accept the glorious ransom, yet the thing did not please the heart of Agamemnon, son of Atreus, but he sent him away harshly, and laid upon him a stern command: [25] “Let me not find you, old man, by the hollow ships, either tarrying now or coming back later, lest your staff and the wreath of the god not protect you. Her I will not set free. Sooner shall old age come upon her
in our house, in Argos, far from her native land, [30] as she walks to and fro before the loom and serves my bed .|Ἀτρεΐδης: ὃ γὰρ ἦλθε θοὰς ἐπὶ νῆας Ἀχαιῶν λυσόμενός τε θύγατρα φέρων τ᾽ ἀπερείσι᾽ ἄποινα,στέμματ᾽ ἔχων ἐν χερσὶν ἑκηβόλου Ἀπόλλωνος
15χρυσέῳ ἀνὰ σκήπτρῳ, καὶ λίσσετο πάντας Ἀχαιούς,Ἀτρεΐδα δὲ μάλιστα δύω, κοσμήτορε λαῶν:Ἀτρεΐδαι τε καὶ ἄλλοι ἐϋκνήμιδες Ἀχαιοί,ὑμῖν μὲν θεοὶ δοῖεν Ὀλύμπια δώματ᾽ ἔχοντεςἐκπέρσαι Πριάμοιο πόλιν, εὖ δ᾽ οἴκαδ᾽ ἱκέσθαι[/col]
| Now all those again that inhabited [size=150][color=#0000FF][b]Pelasgian Argos[/b][/color][/size], and dwelt in Alos and Alope and Trachis, and that held Phthia and Hellas, the land of fair women, and were called Myrmidons and Hellenes and Achaeans—. | νῦν αὖ τοὺς ὅσσοι τὸ Πελασγικὸν Ἄργος ἔναιον,οἵ τ᾽ Ἄλον οἵ τ᾽ Ἀλόπην οἵ τε Τρηχῖνα νέμοντο,οἵ τ᾽ εἶχον Φθίην ἠδ᾽ Ἑλλάδα καλλιγύναικα,Μυρμιδόνες δὲ καλεῦντο καὶ Ἕλληνες καὶ Ἀχαιοί,τῶν αὖ πεντήκοντα νεῶν ἦν ἀρχὸς Ἀχιλλεύς. |
bile vete Akili mitologjik nuk i fale Zotit Helen por atij pellazgjik:
Ζεῦ ἄνα Δωδωναῖε Πελασγικὲ τηλόθι ναίων
tjetrit Akropoli,
Rikrijimi i heleneve dhe helenizmit e gjeti keshtu Akropolin:
pra me banoret e saj origjinale, qe jane shqiptaret.
Dhe ne lashtesi, nese do te besojme ato qe i thoshin vete te ashtequajturit helene, Akropoli ishte tempull i perendive pellazge dhe i ndertuar nga pellazget shume me perpara se nje fis i vogel i tyre te vetquhej Helene.
ndonje tjetri Sparta
dhe ishin pikerisht pellazget athinas qe i debonin spartanet(dorianet, lacademionet) nga tempujt e tyre sepse sipas tyre ata nuk meritonin te futeshin ne to:
| "Lacedemonian stranger, go back and enter not into the temple, for it is not lawful for Dorians to pass in hither." He said: "Woman, I am not a Dorian, but an Achaian." So then, paying no attention to the ominous speech, he made his attempt and then was expelled again with the Lacedemonians; but the rest of the men the Athenians laid in bonds to be put to death, and among them Timesitheos the Delphian, with regard to whom I might mention very great deeds of strength and courage which he performed.—. | «ὦ ξεῖνε Λακεδαιμόνιε, πάλιν χώρεε μηδὲ ἔσιθι ἐς τὸ ἱρόν· οὐ γὰρ θεμιτὸν Δωριεῦσι παριέναι ἐνθαῦτα.» ὁ δὲ εἶπε «ὦ γύναι, ἀλλ᾽ οὐ Δωριεύς εἰμι ἀλλ᾽ Ἀχαιός.» [4] ὃ μὲν δὴ τῇ κλεηδόνι οὐδὲν χρεώμενος ἐπεχείρησέ τε καὶ τότε πάλιν ἐξέπιπτε μετὰ τῶν Λακεδαιμονίων· τοὺς δὲ ἄλλους Ἀθηναῖοι κατέδησαν τὴν ἐπὶ θανάτῳ, ἐν δὲ αὐτοῖσι καὶ Τιμησίθεον τὸν Δελφόν, τοῦ ἔργα χειρῶν τε καὶ λήματος ἔχοιμ᾽ ἂν μέγιστα καταλέξαι. |
,ndonje tjetri Sokrati
qe thoshte qe : "pothuajse gjithshka ne kulturen tone eshte trasheguar nga barbaret"
ndonje tjetri beteja e Maratones.
nje nder pak betejat e fituara nga helenet, ne kuadrin e nje lufte qe natyrisht nuk behej per clirim kombetar, por ju sherbente teresisht interesave te sunduesve vendas qe nuk dihet kujt race i perkisnin dhe cfare trashegimie kishin.
Po kur thua pellazg cfare te shkon ne mendje?
Te gjitha keto qe te thashe une me siper dhe shume gjera te tjera qe jane permendur por nuk mund ti sjellim dot te gjitha ketu.
Se mua asgje
ndoshta duhet te lexosh pak me teper.
Kishte nje pyetje-pergjigje dje te « Shekulli » cfare ishin Pellazget. Pasi u dhane nja 2 versione, konkluzioni ishte se akoma nuk dihet cfare ishin dhe ku ishin.
Po Helenet cfare ishin? A nuk jane valle ata ne te njejten vorbull (mos)njohurie te njejte me pellazget? Une te siguroj qe identiteti i tyre mbulohet nga te njejtat pikepyetje qe ka per cdo race te lashtesise, bile per ata duhet te veme dhe nje pikepyetje me te madhe, qekurse emri i tyre eshte perdorur per interesa politike.
