"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

DEKONSTRUKTIMI ME ÇEKAN I PROPAGANDËS GREKE PËR EPIRIN!

Këtu mund të flisni mbi historinë tonë duke sjellë fakte historike për ndriçimin e asaj pjese të historisë mbi të cilen ka rënë harresa e kohës dhe e njerëzve.

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Zoterinj kerkoj te falur nese dikush nuk e kuptoi shqipen time.DIEJA eshte privilegj e atyre qe e kerkojne dhe jo e atyre qe e blejne dhe e shesin per nje kafe turke.
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faon perrovarri wrote:Nga menyra se si shtrohen ceshtjet ,dhe rrjedha e diskutimeve ne pergjithesi rreth identitetit tone te ''TJETERSUAR'' vereje se njohurite tona jane kaq te cekta sa nuk jemi ne gjendje te konstatojme se shqiperia dhe greqia jane dy vende qe perbehen nga njejta popullate:ARBENET DHE ARMENET. Ndersa ata te greqise keputen kerthizen qe i lidhte me QYTETERIMIN ''mongoliane'' per pese shekuj,ne shqiptaret po vuajme dhe do te vuajme pasojat e tij.
Ne nuk mund ta evitojme subjektivizmin ne veshtrimin e fenonomeneve dhe ne analizat qe kryejme, ashtu sic nuk mund te shmangim nje kendveshtrim tonin specifik per to, por une nuk mund te pranoj si te vertete, qe ata qe ti i identifikon si Armene dhe na qenkan nje race me ne arbenit qe ti i quan Arbene, na qenkan me te emancipuar se gjysma tjeter(pra ne arbenet) dhe kuptuan para saj nevojen e shkeputjes nga Turqia. Nese ata qe ti i quajte armene, pra grekerit e rinj, krijuan nje shtet te tyrin para shqiptareve, kjo erdhi per nje seri faktoresh politike dhe historike te jashtem e te brendshem, dhe pak u ndikua nga deshirat dhe perceptimet tona.
Sa per cilesine e njohurive tona, ato mbeten modeste, por gjithsesi shume perpara shume te tjereve, dhe mbi te gjitha rrahin kah asaj qe na bashkon te gjitheve ketu.
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faon perrovarri wrote:PELLAZG;Armenet ose remenet (e-ne lexo si tek fjala nxene) sic i referohen vetes ne gjuhen e tyre dhe vendpopulimet e tyre ne te kaluaren p.sh sic jane Voskopoja,Gramushta,Sirako,Krushova,Monastiri,Frasheri e quanin REMENIE jane ata qe ne te folmen e Kosoves e themi VELLAU ose VELLAHU dhe GJITONET e larget u thone VLLAH,VUOH,VALLI,FELLAH etj,etj.....Jane ata qe trashegimia gjuhesore dhe kulturore kane sjelle deri ne ditet tona te drejten qe kur i referohen zotit thone ''PER KOKEN E ZEUT'' ,jane ata qe shkenca e sotme paleontollogjike krahasuse i konsideron si pas ardhesit me te drejteperdrejte te njeriut pro pellazge ne hapsiren ballkanike
''PER KOKEN E ZEUT''
po kjo sikur me duket shqipe mua...!!! apo jo?
ne malesite e shqiperise se mesme thone akoma "PER ATE DILL E PER ATE HAN"....
jane ata qe shkenca e sotme paleontollogjike krahasuse i konsideron si pas ardhesit me te drejteperdrejte te njeriut pro pellazge ne hapsiren ballkanike
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po ja kete shkrimin Pellazgjik te lemnos, na e interpreto pake ne gjuhen armene arumune apo vallahe...!??
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A e bën Akilin ne këtë Libër më sipër Pellazg apo jamë gabim , pasi gjuhën anglishte e kuptoj me më vështërsi ?
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Si blenë Grekët Historinë !
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New chair in Ancient Greek culture established
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A new Professorship dedicated to explaining what the Ancient Greeks did for us has been established at the University of Cambridge.
The A. G. Leventis Professorship of Greek Culture is the first chair in Classics to have been endowed at Cambridge since World War II. It will focus on the study of more than 1,000 years of Greek cultural achievements, and will highlight the lasting influence they continue to have on society today.
The first post-holder will be Professor Paul Cartledge (pictured), a leading authority on the history of Greek political thought and practice, especially democracy; and on the societies and economies of Classical Greece (especially Sparta). He has also examined the post-antique reception of ancient Greece and the Greeks - including the way in which they are portrayed in film and other media.

As well as being an expert in the field, Professor Cartledge has an active role in popularising the study of Ancient Greece through books, television and radio appearances. He was even a consultant on the 2007 box-office hit 300 - a gruesome depiction of the Spartan stand at the Battle of Thermopylae - by virtue of his (more accurate) book Thermopylae, The Battle That Changed The World.

His other books include the Cambridge Illustrated History of Ancient Greece and The Greeks: A Portrait of Self and Others. Forthcoming in 2009 are A History of Greek Political Thought in Action and Ancient Greece: A Very Short Introduction. He has been the historical consultant for several documentaries on Channel 4 and the BBC, and has made regular appearances to talk about his subject on radio shows such as In Our Time and Start The Week.

His work has even seen him awarded two Greek honours - he is a holder of the Gold Cross of the Order of Honour and an Honorary Citizen of (modern) Sparta. Besides the Leventis Professorship, he holds a visiting Global Distinguished Professorship at New York University, funded by the Greek Parliament.

The new chair has been endowed by a generous donation from the Cyprus-based Leventis Foundation. Established in 1979 as a result of provisions made by Anastasios G. Leventis, the Foundation aims to support educational, cultural, artistic and philanthropic causes with an emphasis on Greek and Cypriot cultural heritage.

The Leventis family has a special connection with Cambridge as the late Constantinos ("Deno") Leventis studied Classics at Clare College, where Professor Cartledge is a Fellow. The Foundation has also established a graduate scholarship fund for Classics at Clare.

Professor Cartledge said: "It is a huge honour to be named the first A. G. Leventis Professor of Greek Culture at Cambridge.

"The culture of the ancient Greeks is a pillar of western civilisation; their political ideas, philosophy, scientific enquiry, historical writing and art not only broke new ground but have inspired those who followed in their wake, from the Romans through to the present day. A central part of my role will be spreading awareness of the rich heritage that they have passed down."

Professor Cartledge will be giving his Inaugural lecture on Monday, February 16, 2009. Further details will be available one the University website news pages closer to the time.

http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/news/dp/2008100701
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