"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460
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vazhdojme akoma faqja tjeter
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vazhdon faqja tjeter
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vazhdim akoma
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po sjell edhe faqen ku permend Ambrakine dhe ku thote qarte aty fillon Greqia
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Shkelqyeshem Mallakaster! Materialet e grumbulluara ketu te nxjerra prej honeve te harreses qellimlige tani po shkelqejne ketu ne driten e vertetesise. Ja prite edhe nje citat sa domethenes, aq edhe shkencor dhe lakonik:
Kur shoh qe secili nga ne po ben te pamunduren qe te sjell cdo te Vertete per Epirin, me kujtohet emfaza e Marin Barletit:"... mightiest general of antiquity, was born in July, BC, of the marriage between Philip II of Macedon and his third wife, the Albanian princess Olympias."
Norman F. Cantor
Alexander the Great: Journey to the End of the Earth
2005
When the people saw all those young and brave men around Skanderbeg, then it was not hard to believe that the armies of [Sultan] Murat were so defeated by the Albanians. Indeed, the times when the star of Macedon shone brilliantly had returned, just as they seemed in those long forgotten times of Pyrrhus and Alexander."
MARIN BARLETI
Ne sot po hedhim faren me emrin Bashkim,
Qe neser te korrim frutin me emrin Bashkim!
Qe neser te korrim frutin me emrin Bashkim!
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disa pjese te shkeputura nga libri."Publii Virgilii Maronis Georgicorum libri quatuor..." i autorit John Martyn.
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Autori bazohet ne vepren e poetit latin Virgjilit si dhe autore te tjere te lashtesise.
Interesante eshte kjo faqa ku jep te dhena si quhej ndryshe ne lashtesi Epiri-pra shpesh thote autori Epiri quhej Kaonia,sepse Kaonet nje popull i Epirit,kane qene ligjvenes apo kane komanduar aty.
Tjeter gje interesante eshte fjala latine "glandem" qe ne shqip do e perkthenim "lende"(Lende Lisi) apo "acorn" ne anglisht...pra midis "Dodoneaneve te (g)lendeve te Lisit" apo "Kaoneve te (g)lendeve te Lisit" sic i ka quajtur Virgjili,Dodona ka qene ajo me famshmja.
Interesante eshte kjo faqa ku jep te dhena si quhej ndryshe ne lashtesi Epiri-pra shpesh thote autori Epiri quhej Kaonia,sepse Kaonet nje popull i Epirit,kane qene ligjvenes apo kane komanduar aty.
Tjeter gje interesante eshte fjala latine "glandem" qe ne shqip do e perkthenim "lende"(Lende Lisi) apo "acorn" ne anglisht...pra midis "Dodoneaneve te (g)lendeve te Lisit" apo "Kaoneve te (g)lendeve te Lisit" sic i ka quajtur Virgjili,Dodona ka qene ajo me famshmja.
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Vazhdojme akoma me nje faqe tjeter interesante ku citon Plinin dhe Servius qe Epirin e kane pershkruar qe ka bere pjese ne Emathi(Maqedoni) ne kohe te vjetra si dhe flet duke na sjelle po ata autore qe ne lashtesi Maqedonia quhej Emathia si dhe Thesalia dhe Epiri mund te kene qene ne lashtesi nen emertim=Aemathia apo Emathia
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Faqja tjeter e konfirmimit si emertohej Maqedonia ne kohe te lashta...
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http://books.google.com/books?id=RVJoAA ... 9EQ&edge=1
Bibliografia:
The Cambridge ancient history ... - Page 352
Charles Theodore Seltman - History - 1939
Alexander the Great, Volume 1 - Page 1
William Woodthorpe Tarn - Biography & Autobiography - 1948
Bibliografia:
The Cambridge ancient history ... - Page 352
Charles Theodore Seltman - History - 1939
Alexander the Great, Volume 1 - Page 1
William Woodthorpe Tarn - Biography & Autobiography - 1948
Ne sot po hedhim faren me emrin Bashkim,
Qe neser te korrim frutin me emrin Bashkim!
Qe neser te korrim frutin me emrin Bashkim!
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Bingoooooooo.... 
Tani kete qe po u sjell ndoshta do i trondisi disi gerxhet e sotem...lol
Kush e ka pohuar ndarjen midis Epirit te Vjeter dhe te Ri nga "Hellenica Terra=TOKA GREKE",eshte nje fare Georgius Logotheta Acropolita 1220-1282 qe ka shkruar pikerisht keshtu :
Tani kete qe po u sjell ndoshta do i trondisi disi gerxhet e sotem...lol
Kush e ka pohuar ndarjen midis Epirit te Vjeter dhe te Ri nga "Hellenica Terra=TOKA GREKE",eshte nje fare Georgius Logotheta Acropolita 1220-1282 qe ka shkruar pikerisht keshtu :
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Po nuk mbaron me kaq...njefare Dionisi ka shkruar qe Iliria ka kufijte deri tek malet Keraune ne Jug(meqenese gerxhet sot kerkojne ti shtyjne kufijte me lart-ja cfare ka shkruar:
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Ja edhe nje harte e vjeter e vitit 1628 me autor -JANSSONIUS,J. - Macedonia Epirus et Achaia.
Publisher : JANSSONIUS,J.
Title : Macedonia Epirus et Achaia.
Published in Amsterdam (1628)
Publisher : JANSSONIUS,J.
Title : Macedonia Epirus et Achaia.
Published in Amsterdam (1628)
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Ndoshta nuk ka shume lidhje por edhe ndoshta ka...si e quan Jacques Le Paulmier de Grentemesnil ne librin e tij "Graeciae antiquae descriptio"..
EPIRUS VETERE=Epirus Vetus=Epiri i VJETER.
Ndoshta shoh ndonje fjale shqip aty...
(ne latinisht ka te njejtin kuptim:" Vetere=Vjeter=Old")
EPIRUS VETERE=Epirus Vetus=Epiri i VJETER.
Ndoshta shoh ndonje fjale shqip aty...
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veter- keshtu i thone arvanitet "te vjetres"Mallakastrioti wrote:Ndoshta nuk ka shume lidhje por edhe ndoshta ka...si e quan Jacques Le Paulmier de Grentemesnil ne librin e tij "Graeciae antiquae descriptio"..
EPIRUS VETERE=Epirus Vetus=Epiri i VJETER.
Ndoshta shoh ndonje fjale shqip aty...
nga vjet-vjetet kemi fjalen "vjeter".
KOHA ESHTE E MASKARENJVE/POR ATDHEU I SHQIPETRAVE