Përshendetje elikranon,
Desha vetëm shkurtazi të replikoj dy nga pohimet e gabuara tuat se Maqedonia dhe Epiri - ishin pjesë dhe histori greke
si dhe në pyetjen tënde përse Maqedonasit konsiderohen ilirë dhe nga kush?
Boundaries And Divisions.
I. Greece, in the sense in which we here consider it, excluding, namely, Macedonia and Epirus, as non-Hellenio states, was bounded on the north by Macedonia, on the northwest by Epirus, on the west by the Ionium Mare, or Ionian Sea, on the east by the JEgceum Mare, or JEga;an Sea, and on the south by the Mare Mediterraneum, or Mediterranean, of which the other two seas are merely parts.
A system of ancient and mediæval geography for the use of schools and colleges
By Charles Anthon
Nuk e di se sa është e nevojshme që t'i sjell edhe pohimet e autorëve të shumtë të lashtë që përjashtojnë Maqedoninë dhe Epirin prej 'Greqisë'. Do mjaftohem me profesorin e mirënjohur 'grek' M.Sakellariou:
The ancient Greek historians and geographers from the classical and the post-classical period, Ephoros, Pseudo-Skylax, Dionysius son of Kalliphon, and Dionysius Periegetes, all put the northern borders of Greece at the line from the Ambracian Gulf in the west to the Peneios River to the east, thus excluding Macedonia from Greece.
Michael Sakellariou, Macedonia: 4000 years of Greek History. p.50.
Straboni ofron provën më të pakundrshtueshme të afërsisë gjuhësore dhe etnografike të ilirëve, maqedonëve dhe epirotëve:
“The Amphibians are the peoples who are situated above them and border on the Illyrian mountains, inhabiting a rugged country — I mean the Molossi, the Athamanes, the Aethices, the Tymphaei, the Orestae, and also the Paroraei and the Atintanes, some of them being nearer to the Macedonians and others to the Ionian Gulf. It is said that Orestes once took possession of Orestias — when in exile on account of the murder of his mother — and left the country bearing his name; and that he also founded a city and called it Argos Oresticum. But the Illyrian tribes which are near the southern part of the mountainous country and those which are above the Ionian Gulf are intermingled with these peoples; for above Epidamnus and Apollonia as far as the Ceraunian Mountains dwell the Bylliones, the Taulantii, the Parthini, and the Brygi. (…) Then, because one tribe or another was always getting the mastery over others, they all ended in the Macedonian empire, except a few who dwelt above the Ionian Gulf. And in fact the regions about Lyncus, Pelagonia, Orestias, and elimeia, used to be called Upper Macedonia, though later on they were by some also called Free Macedonia. But some go so far as to call the whole of the country Macedonia, as far as Corcyra, at the same time stating as their reason that in tonsure, language, short cloak, and other things of the kind, the usages of the inhabitants are similar, although, they add, some speak both languages.”
(~Strabo, Geography, Book VII, Chapter 7)
Le të shikojmë një nga të shumtat përkime midis iliro-maqedonëve:
Apiani i konsideron Atnitanët si Ilirë të vërtetë.
[Spring 228] After these events the widow of Agron sent ambassadors to Rome to surrender the prisoners and deserters into their hands. She begged pardon also for what had been done, not by herself, but by Agron. They received for answer that Corcyra, Pharus, Issa, Epidamnus, and
the Illyrian Atintani were already Roman subjects, that Pinnes might have the remainder of Agron's kingdom and be a friend of the Roman people if he would keep hands off the aforesaid territory, and agree not to sail beyond Lissus nor to keep more than two Illyrian pinnaces, both to be unarmed. The woman accepted all these conditions.
http://www.livius.org/ap-ark/appian/app ... ian_2.html
Kurse, S.Bizantini e kosnideron Atintanin si bir i Maqedonit:
In the Ethnika of Stephanus (perhaps through Theagenes),
sons and grandsons of Makedon are: Atintan (in the version of Lycaon) eponymous of a region in Epirus or Illyria , Beres, (father of Mieza,Beroea and Olganos, toponyms in Bottiaea), Europus by Oreithyia daughter of Cecrops) and Oropus, birthplace of Seleucus I Nikator , which is perhaps confused with Europus. Finally, in the version of Lycaon king of Emathia, Pindus is a son of Makedon, who gave his name to Pindus, where he died, a river of Doris, a region in central Greece.
