"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

Ilire, Maqedone dhe Helene.

Këtu mund të flisni mbi historinë tonë duke sjellë fakte historike për ndriçimin e asaj pjese të historisë mbi të cilen ka rënë harresa e kohës dhe e njerëzve.
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John Chika spo muj ta gjej ne internet as biografin e tij !
Mirëpo po e lidhe kete post që e solli Phoenix me këtë tjetrin autor ku është edhe linku :
".. burrat që marshuan në Babiloni, Persi, dhe Indi ishin paraardhësit e shqiptarëve dhe Epiri dhe Iliria e përbashkët në anarki e cila pasoi vdekja e pushtuesit të madh (Alexander, Madh), i cili ka deklaruar veten si një Shkypetar, dhe me drejtësi të konsiderueshme. "
Wadham Peacock From: The Fortnightly Review, London, May 1913. Reprinted by the Centre for Albanian Studies, London, October 2000.
Përputhet mjaft , mendoj se duhet te jetë i vërtet edhe pse gjuha atje që flitet ne postimin e Phoenix më duket
është shum moderne për atë kohë...?

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And Greeks looks all the same, despite where they are located!! :Nice try to divide other peoples. Noticed that if Albanian Nationality was composed of several distinct tribes like Tosks (=Khams, Liaps), Ghegs (=Miridites) this does not mean that Albanian nationality was composed by mixture of distinctive ethnic tribes. Even Tosks even Gheghs spoken Albanian language, share the same tradition, history and blood. Noone doubted in this. This is the first time I heard someone to divide them. If author you quoted stated that they're admixture with neighbouring races like Slavs and Greeks, he didn't gave any evidence or proof to justify what he claims. So, I consider as a joke and non-valid such claims, without support of real evidences. I can say that Albanians attained to preserve better their own identity from Slavic and other invasion happened in Balkan Peninsula. I don't intend that Albanians are not mingling with Slavs, but beside Greeks, Slavic impact in Albanian lands were not so considerable as in Greece.
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http://www.archive.org/stream/turkishli ... 7/mode/1up
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A School History of the Great War
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Alexander A. Vasiliev - 1958 - 382 pages

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Lonely Planet Western Balkans
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Anastasius I, Justin I and Justinian I – were of Illyrian origin. Ottoman Rule In 1344
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A geographical and historical description of ancient Greece, 1: with a map ...
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The London magazine
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Michele Marchiano
Relique e Vestigi dell'Antico ceppo glottico Albanese e Parentela delle lingue Traco-Macedo-Illiriche (Saggio)
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Libri jep një pasqyrë të mijëra viteteve te fundit të historisë në Ballkan, shpjegon shkaqet dhe prejardhje , Shqiptaret pa
dyshim kanë prejardhje Ilire shkruan : des US-amerikanischen Historikers und Bibliothekars an der Michigan-State-University, Steven W. Sowards,
# Verlag: Books on Demand Gmbh; Auflage: 1 (Mai 2004)
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Ja disa gjera interesante...

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A history of Greece; (1892)


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Mallakastrioti shiko pak me vemendje se cfare e zevendeson shprehjen DIE qe ke gjetur ti tek ajo monedhe:

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Eshte DIELLI, pra DIA(apo Zeusi) eshte simbol i diellit, dhe kjo prevon katerciperisht ate qe ne kemi shume kohe qe e themi.
Nga ana tjeter nuk eshte rastesi perputhja e plote e emrit te Zeusit DIA me dhia te shqipes.
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