Ilire, Maqedone dhe Helene.

[Mallakastrioti]

Faleminderit derman qe e solle si monedhe origjinale---dhe me te vertet eshte po e njejta monedhe me kete skice nga libri qe permenda.

[ALBPelasgian]

Shume gjetje e mrekullueshme kjo!
Per me teper (ne nje post te mehershem pata sjelle edhe nje monedhe te gjetur ne Aigai ku dhia eshte simbol).
Kjo lidhet me legjendat e lashta maqedonse, qe themelimin e fisit te tyre (blegtoral) e lidhin me Perdike blegtorin. Ne kohera te mocme, kur fiset nguleshin ne ndonje vend, gjithnje i linin dhite te prinin te parat per shkak se ato e hetonin vendin me klime me te qendrueshme dhe vitale. Prandaj, maqedonasit, epirotasit dhe me vone arberoret e ruajten nje simbol te tille - gjegjesisht briret e dhise.

[ALBPelasgian]

Mallakastrioti dhe mos harro, ri-postoje linkun ose titullin e librit ne fjale!?

[ALBPelasgian]

Ketu eshte nje material i nje historiani neo-bizantin. Jo per tjeter gje e solla, por vec per te verifikue kultin e dhise:

In its general lines this story is repeated by the Roman historian Justin, whose work is mainly an epitome of the lost Macedonian history written by Pompeius Trogus on the basis of earlier versions and on facts diligently collected. The tradition saved by Justin is embellished with great detail. He tells us that after Apollo's oracle had told him to settle in Macedonia, Caranus, coming to Emathia with a great mass of Greeks, followed a flock of goats hastening to seek shelter in the town of Edessa from a violent rainstorm and mist. The inhabitants of Edessa resisted him, but Caranus, evidently aided by the rain and mist, and led by the goats as the oracle had predicted, succeeded in entering with his army and taking the town, which he made capital of his newly founded kingdom. In memory of the godsent sign of the goats, which from then on he was in the habit of putting at the head of his army to lead it in the field, he gave Edessa the name of Aegae (goats).

The legend of Caranus' goats contributed to the belief that the name of the Macedonian capital Aegae was thus derived. Nowadays it is generally admitted that the name Aegae is due to its situation with abundant water pouring headlong down to the plain in scenic waterfalls. Actually the root "aig-" in ancient Greek meant a spring of water or simply water.

All the same, it may be regarded as very probable that the myth of Caranus' goats, having a basic start in later misunderstanding as to the name of the capital of Macedonia's first kings, is supported by the most ancient Doric traditions which Greek Dorians brought with them where they settled.

Actually Pausanias records a tradition surviving at Sparta in his day, according to which the Lacedaimonians alone among the Greeks were allowed to sacrifice goats to Hera, who on that account was called "aigosphagos" (the goat-eater). The Lacedaimonians attributed this to the legend that Heracles founded the temple of Hera in Sparta and first sacrificed goats in it to the goddess, grateful because she had not opposed his fight against Hippocoon and his children. He sacrificed goats then, because he had nothing else to slaughter for the sacrifice (17). The Lacedaimonians were the main representatives of the Dorian world and the Macedonians adhered reverently to the same religious traditions which they had adopted before they departed to their centuries of isolation beyond Olympus and Pindus. Besides, Heracles who first sacrificed goats and was worshipped by the Dorian branch of Greeks, was the principal national hero of the Macedonians, claimed as the ancestor of their Argaeo-Temenid kings. A different tradition is to be found in the surviving fragments of Euphorion, a writer of the 3rd century B.C. Here Caranus, led by the oracle, came into Macedonia neither as an unknown shepherd boy nor as leader of a conquering army, but at the head of Greek colonists with whom he built a city and was proclaimed king of Macedonia (18). The city is not named but at all events it was not Aegae, as he later states that the town of Edessa, which he says was formerly inhabited by Phrygians and Lydians brought into Europe by Midas, was then renamed Aegae by Caranus (19). Evidently by giving first place in the foundation of Macedonia to the prophecy of the oracle, Euphorion follows the legend which Euripides used in his drama, although the latter names the ancestor of the dynasty Archelaus, while the former remains faithful to the tradition of Caranus handed down in the Greek world.

http://www.macedonia.com/english/history/royal/

[Zeus10]

Faleminderit derman qe e solle si monedhe origjinale---dhe me te vertet eshte po e njejta monedhe me kete skice nga libri qe permenda.

ja ku jane perbri njeri tjetrit:





Eshte jashte cdo dyshimi qe DIE=diell

[Socio]

Faleminderit Zeus !

[ALBPelasgian]

Analogji e perkryer Socio!
Kjo analogji nuk eshte rastesore, por tregues i qarte i kompleksit unitar Iliri - Maqedoni -Epir.

[Zeus10]

Ketu eshte nje material i nje historiani neo-bizantin. Jo per tjeter gje e solla, por vec per te verifikue kultin e dhise:

.............................. he gave Edessa the name of Aegae (goats).

Ka shume mundesi qe vete emri Edhesa (Έδεσσα) te shprehi pikerisht qyetin kushtuar dhisë( e dhisë dhe jo edese),( ε-ja ne mes te dy bashketingelloreve lexohet i) aq me teper qe per kete qytet shume dijetare kane gjetur prova qe ai kaqene nje qytet ilir:

..... it was ascribed an Illyrian origin by Ulrich Wilcken in his biography of Alexander the Great

[Socio]

Eshte jashte cdo dyshimi qe DIE=diell

Zeus, a eshte ky artefakt nga Maqedonia ?

linku ?

[Zeus10]

Eshte jashte cdo dyshimi qe DIE=diell

Zeus, a eshte ky artefakt nga Maqedonia ?

linku ?

Po eshte pikerisht nga Meqedonia, nuk e mbaj mend siten ku e kam hasur.

[Mallakastrioti]

Cte kene thene keta ketu ore aman e?...pastaj me ke kombe te tjera "unknown" te kene bere kete traktat paqe?

[alfeko sukaraku]

qe ka fjale greke ky mbishkrim...ka...por qe eshte mbishkrimi qarte greke

po punoj pak sonte mbi kete mbishkrim, po nxorra te dhena do jua sjelle.

llafosem pak:

nga ku?ku eshte gjetur?ciles kohe?

[Zeus10]

Cte kene thene keta ketu ore aman e?...pastaj me ke kombe te tjera "unknown" te kene bere kete traktat paqe?

Nese kjo nuk eshte ndonje falsifikim atehere transkiptimi eshte ai i meposhtmi:



ne nje ""greqishte"" te telendisur.

Shikojeni pak di-an tek fjalia TOI DI OLYNPIOI





Per mendimin tim e-ja e lashte ne shume raste perfaqson tingullin i.

[alfeko sukaraku]

fjalet e para jane krejt shqipe:

A VRATRA ,,,,,,,FALIOS

[Socio]

Eshte jashte cdo dyshimi qe DIE=diell

Zeus, a eshte ky artefakt nga Maqedonia ?

linku ?

Po eshte pikerisht nga Meqedonia, nuk e mbaj mend siten ku e kam hasur.

Faleminderit !

Zeus, ky eshte ai simboli ilir i dielllit qe une propozova te vendoset si logo e forumit ! E hasim pra edhe tek Maqedonasit !!

Hiqja rrezet diellit qe shihet ne artefakt ...

A nuk eshte i njejti simbol ...



Vetem se ketu jane dy diej. Por kur i shohim individualisht eshte i njejti simbol - rreth me rrathe te vazhdueshme permbrenda !