"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

Why do we call it Greece while it's Albanian land?

Sillni harta historike fiziko-politike-etnografike, që pasqyrojnë realitetin etnik dhe politik të një rajoni të caktuar, në një periudhë të caktuar.

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Source: "The Movement for Greek Independence, 1770-1821: A Collection of Documents" by Richard Clogg, 1976.
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Këtu kemi një tjetër term ''Grek modern'' duke deklaruar se Anatolianasit nuk kanë ndonjë vetëdije etnike dhe që flet "greqisht" nuk do të thotë keni qenë "greke" dhe Orthodhoksia nuk ishte vetëm "greqisht".


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Shqiptaret janë më të vjetrit ne Athine , pjesa tjetër janë të ardhurit nga zona të tjera dhe refugjatëve të krishterë e trashëgimitë e ndryshme etnike ..

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Nacionaliteti shqiptar është i përbërë nga disa fise të dallueshme-zakonit që bëjnë, Gegë, Mirdites, Çamë, dhe Liaps....Si rregull, i njëjti lloji i shkëlqyer fizike është i dukshëm në mesin e shqiptarëve në përgjithësi, ato ndryshojnë disi sipas shkallës dhe përzierje me racave fqinje, sllaveve në veri, dhe në jug greqi.


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Greece and the Greeks of the present day
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Le të lexojne minoritarët Jevgj dhe te shikojne se kush banonte në ''Greqine e tyre ''

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Arta wrote:

A Walk in Hellas,or The Old in the New
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The Modern Greek language in its relation to ancient Greek page 128

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Dashamiri dhe miku i madh i shqiptareve, protestani i denje, Edwin Jacques shkruan:
Albanian leadership in the Greek war for Independence (1820-1826)

Pondering the decline and fall of Greece, Lord Byron observed, "A thousand years scarce serve to form a state. / An hour may lay it in the dust, and when/ can man its shattered splendor renovate?" (Byron 1891,1:2.84). Albanians seem largely instrumental in doing just that.

While the sultan was preoccupied with Ali Pasha, the Greeks seized the opportunity for their own insurrection in 1820, finally achieving independence in 1826. In that war of independence, many of the outstanding leaders were descendants of the Albanians who had migrated there under John Bua Spata.

The Greek islands of Spetzai, Hydra and Poros were inhabited almost exclusively by people of Albanian blood. Many of these made their livelihood as fishermen. In the struggle for independence they contributed such national figures as Miaulis, Djavela, Marko Bochari and the female naval commander Laskarina Bubulina (Skendo 1919, 25).

The French writer Honorë de Balzac published in Paris (1828) his Laments and Elegiac Songs, folk songs eulogizing Bubulina, Bochari and others, which he collected from an Albanian woman who emigrated to France (NAlb 1984, 3:16).

The British historian George Finlay, in his seven-volume History of Greece (Finlay 1877, 4:254-57) stated that in the struggle of Greece to regain her independence from Turkey, the soldiers of Suli and the sailors of the islands of Hydra and Spetzai were the bravest warriors and the most skillful mariners, and "these were of the purest Albanian race." In fact it was another Briton who declared it not likely that the independence of Greece would have been achieved but for the invaluable services rendered to the revolution by the Albanians, both of Albania and Greece (Peacock 1914, 178). As confirmation, the first president of free Greece, Capodistrias (1828-1831), was born in Corfu of an Albanian family originating in Gjirokastra (Skendo 1919, 26).

It is altogether remarkable that although separated from their motherland for centuries, many of their descendants even yet have not lost their language, customs and traditions. One of these who distinguished himself recently in the Greek navy was Admiral Kunduriot. During the naval battle of the Dardanelles in 1912 he shouted a command to the crew of his battleship in the Albanian language. When asked afterwards why he had used this unaccustomed idiom, the admiral replied, "From enthusiasm!" His reponse corresponds very closely to the reason given by Alexander the Great for frequently speaking to his Macedonian troops in their non-Hellenic language.

On another occasion Admiral Kunduriot learned that his ship's officers had forbidden the seamen to speak Albanian among themselves. The admiral summoned the seamen on deck and asked them, "A kuvëndoni Shqip, more?" (O you, do you talk together in Albanian?). The sailors looked at one another, hardly knowing what to reply. One of them took courage, and answered, "We do talk together just a little, Admiral." Kunduriot replied, "Go ahead and talk together in Albanian, for we are the ones who liberated Greece!" (Dituria January 1927, 86).


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Jo, vetem se keta ishin Shqiptar ortodoks te cilet quheshin "grek" nga te huajt, por populli qe i njihte aty i dinte qe ishin shqiptar Përkthimi nga Aulona .

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Selections from my journal, during a residence in the Mediterranean (1836 )
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Herbert Adams Gibbons 1920
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Krijimi i nacionalitet ''Grek modern '' nga shqiptaret :)
Helenizmi i tyre :mrgreen:

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