"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

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Sillni harta historike fiziko-politike-etnografike, që pasqyrojnë realitetin etnik dhe politik të një rajoni të caktuar, në një periudhë të caktuar.
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Rreth viteve 1600
Ajo qe eshte interesante eshte mosegzistenca e Greqise.
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Hymniarber wrote: Ajo qe eshte interesante eshte mosegzistenca e Greqise.
Pikerisht eshte ashtu HymniArber! Mosekzistenca e Greqise si territor etnografik ose si etnos
i pervecme ka qene nje fakt i pamohueshmem deri ne kohen kur:

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Harte e shek. 14 apo 15....di qe i inatosi ca greker kjo harte ne nje videon time ne youtube se Gerqia eshte vetem nje dore vend ketu. :D
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Pershendetje Mallakastrioti,

Te uroj mirseradhje ne forum
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ALBPelasgian wrote:Pershendetje Mallakastrioti,

Te uroj mirseradhje ne forum
Pershendetje AlbPelasgian,te faleminderit dhe mire se ju gjeta.
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Ja te shoh une ckam ne kompjuter per harta...
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vazhdim per harta
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Mallakastrioti, te lumte o burre i dheut per keto harta qe po i sjelle!

Ne te vertete, ne duhet qe ne keto tema qe i kemi hapur te grumbullojme
fakte hartografike sepse ato mund te na sherbejne ne cfaredo ballafaqimi
me "greket" te cilet mundohen te pohojne 'hellenicitetin' e Epirit.

Une jam duke bere cmos per te siguruar sa me shume material te kesaj natyre!

P.S: Per kete duhet te shfrytezojme me kujdes edhe disa forume tjera
sic jane forumet: turke, sllavomaqedone, bullgare apo kroate. Perse?
Sepse ata po hapin disa tema te kesaj natyre ku per interesa te tyre mundohen
t'i shfrytezojne faktet shqiptare per Greqine. Per kete apo po bejne kerkime
neper libra e biblioteka online, dhe te them te drejten edhe po sjellin materiale goxha
me vlere. Prandaj, keto materiale do te ishte e vlefshme qe ti sjellin ketu ne forum
per te bere nje sistematizim te pergjithshem te gjitha materialeve!
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Pershendetje, harta tet shkelqyera keto, ja bej hallall postuesve qe po i postojne ketu.

Une kam nje problem, apo me mire me then me duhet nje hart.
Me duhet nje hart e viteve te Skenderbeut, ku tregon gjithe Principatat shqiptare dhe shtrirjen e tyre, jo vetem brenda Shqiperis por edhe jasht territoreve qe ka tani Shqipnia, dmth dua shtrirjen e Principatave tamam siq kan qene.
Nese eshte e mundur te gjehet nje harte e till, ose nese mund ta beni edhe ju vet nese dini do me ndihmoni shume.
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Vazhdim harta...kjo eshte me interesantja marre nga Enciklopedia Ruse ku tregon kufijte e Serbise ne vitin 1817...
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vazhdim me harta te tjera interesante...
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vazhdim akoma harta...
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Dalmatia-Wien 1803

Title: Partie de la Dalmatie du sud est avec l'Albanie - Charte des suedoestlichen Theiles von Dalmatien, mit dem Oesterreichischen Antheile von Albanien.

Description: Copper engraving, hand colored in outline. This large decorative map shows the southeastern part of Dalmatia with the Albania.
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Harte e 1684,
kliko imazhin/click on the image

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Title:Regni Hungariae, Graeciae et Moreae
Author:Justus Danckerts
Place and Year:Amsterdam, 1684
Description:Nice map of the greater Balkan region, follows the course of the Danube from Passau to the Black Sea.
dimensions:512*599mm.
colouring:original
condition:good: centre fold strengthened
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Harta e Europes 1590 (e permbysur)

kliko imazhin

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Title: Europa das ein drittheil der Erden nach Gelegenheit unserer Zeit beschrieben.
Author: MUENSTER SEBASTIAN.
PlaceAndYear: Basilea, 1590 ca.
Description: From “Cosmographey”.
Dimensions: mm. 310x360.
Colouring: modern
Condition: good with some minor defects
Technique: woodcut
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