"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

Etimologjia e fjales.

Diskutim profesional për gjuhën.
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Zeus nese mundesh te ma skjarosh nje pakjartsi ,sepse ne kete forum ka njohes te mire te shkrimeve te lashta poashtu ka dhe lexues te mire te shkrimeve te lashta ,me intereson pse me ngatrrohen disa emra te lashtesis sidomos mes emrave M'ares, marsi ,marti ,mortja , marresi darsma,d'arsmor, martir marshim,marsi njekohesisht si burr i athenes pse pikrisht i athenes qe une e identifikoj me te njejtat atribute edhe veneren hatorin aetonin ashtarten ,aferditen etj .Pra pse pikrisht nga ky person rrjedh emri i mortit vdekjes pse pikrisht tek ky person permendet ,apostrofohet gjaku luftarak pra siq shifet ky person mund te jet vete adami e kurrsesi te jete ndonje hyjni sepse ne shkrime te lashta leximi i emrit ARES lexohet ADEM dhe kur ti deshifrojm lidhjet mes ketyre emrave besoj se patjeter do te na nderlidhen emra te tjere me kete emrer i cili e deshifron perkatsin dhe shume tradita te cilat i hasim edhe sot e kesaj dite tek shqiptaret .
A mos valle Aresi-Ademi-Adami ishte personi ardhur nga planeti maresit ?
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Eja dhe EJETE ?---nga e cila mund te rrjedhi edhe fjala Hajde?Mendoja se ishte turqisht kjo e fundit (hajde),por qenka homerishte me duket.


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XH.GASHI wrote:Zeus nese mundesh te ma skjarosh nje pakjartsi ,sepse ne kete forum ka njohes te mire te shkrimeve te lashta poashtu ka dhe lexues te mire te shkrimeve te lashta ,me intereson pse me ngatrrohen disa emra te lashtesis sidomos mes emrave M'ares, marsi ,marti ,mortja , marresi darsma,d'arsmor, martir marshim,marsi njekohesisht si burr i athenes pse pikrisht i athenes qe une e identifikoj me te njejtat atribute edhe veneren hatorin aetonin ashtarten ,aferditen etj .Pra pse pikrisht nga ky person rrjedh emri i mortit vdekjes pse pikrisht tek ky person permendet ,apostrofohet gjaku luftarak pra siq shifet ky person mund te jet vete adami e kurrsesi te jete ndonje hyjni sepse ne shkrime te lashta leximi i emrit ARES lexohet ADEM dhe kur ti deshifrojm lidhjet mes ketyre emrave besoj se patjeter do te na nderlidhen emra te tjere me kete emrer i cili e deshifron perkatsin dhe shume tradita te cilat i hasim edhe sot e kesaj dite tek shqiptaret .
A mos valle Aresi-Ademi-Adami ishte personi ardhur nga planeti maresit ?
Ka shume ide brenda pyetjes tende, por une po te pergjigjem per dy prej tyre:
Marsi dhe morti jane te dyja te lidhur me foljen shqipe marr, i pari eshte i marri ose marrzia, kurse e dyta ajo qe te merr.
Marsi nuk ka qene asnjehere burri i Athines sipas mitologjise, ajo ishte e virgjer, ai ka qene i dashuri i Aferdites.
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:D ---keto jane me te bukura fare:

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...dhe BINGOooooooooooooo...fjala GJUETAR dhe GJUETI---

mbahuni fort -haha-

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vashdim akoma:

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Ja edhe fjala UJK:

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Vazhdim...

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---- :) mjaft per sot se do mendoni qe iku nga mendja e kokes Mallakastra
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Mallakastrioti wrote:Vazhdim...

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---- :) mjaft per sot se do mendoni qe iku nga mendja e kokes Mallakastra

Jo Mallakastrioti, mos u shqeteso se cmendojne te tjeret. Kjo qe po te ndodh ty tani me ka ndodhur dhe mua disa vite me pare dhe une beja habi se si te tjeret nuk e dallonin perputhjen e gjuhes se vjeter ""greke"" me gjuhen popullore sidomos te Laberise, qe per cudi kishte format leksikore te perziera me ato te Veriut.
Folja ndëjta e shqipes i ka dhene jete kuptimit jetoj/banoj ne greqishten e vjeter. Ne dhe sot pyesim:
Ku ke ndëjtur me perpara?
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Mallakastrioti wrote:vashdim akoma:

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Pa diskutim, folja laj ose lou(dialekt) paraqitet si ne shqip jo vetem ne kuptimin e drejteperdrejte por dhe ne ate te kundert:
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Mallakastrioti wrote:Eja dhe EJETE ?---nga e cila mund te rrjedhi edhe fjala Hajde?Mendoja se ishte turqisht kjo e fundit (hajde),por qenka homerishte me duket.


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Eshte Aristofani ai qe ja ka marre popullorce O Eja , Eja , Eja, Eja:

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Pra fragmenti eshte shkeputur nga Aristophanes, Peace

:Le ta shohim pak perkthimin:

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Problemi me "greqishten" eshte tek perafrimi i kuptimit, psh folja njoh perkthehet mendje(ose memorizoj), duke u shnderruar nga nje figure e ligjerates ne njeren gjuhe, ne nje figure tjeter ne gjuhen tjeter:

(mind) ν-οῦς, -οῦ (& -όος),-ῷ (& -όι), -οῦν (& -όα) || -οῖ (& -όες), -ῶν, -οῖς, -οῦς (& -όας);
(= Attic form of νόος, νόου, νόῳ, νόον || νόοι, νόων, νόοις, νόους.

Ato interpretohen si lakim emri por ne fakt jane foljet shqipe te zgjedhuara ne kohe dhe menyra te ndryshme:

νόος---njohesh
νόου---njohu
νόῳ---njoh, njo
νόον----njojn, njohin
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Doja te te falenderoja perzemersisht Zeus per fjalet dhe sqarimet e tua.

Le te vazhdojme atehere si me poshte me fjalen Fëmi(ja):

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Fjala Uj-ujë-ui...

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Interesant ky subjekti:--Zë= Dhë=Jep-Uj=DhëUj.....?????ZEUS------HIDH UJ=IDHULL=IDOLO=IDOL????
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