"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

Etimologjia e fjales.

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Është një fjalë shqipe JONE në kuptimin melodi, që fatkeqsisht nuk gjindet tek FGJSSH. Gjindet që nga arbëreshët e Italisë, te Gjeçovi e deri në Malsi të Gjakovës - këtu me një vendkëmbim ojne - dhe sipas disa 'eksperte', është një fjalë tingullore (onomatopeike) e gjuhës. JONE (melodi, etj.) ngjanë mjaft me greqishtën ίωή (melodi, 'tingëllimë zëri', 'fishëkëllim në erë', etj.).
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Mallakastrioti, duhën pa më thellë caqet muzikore. Është një fjalë shqipe JONE në kuptimin melodi, që fatkeqsisht nuk gjindet tek FGJSSH. Gjindet që nga arbëreshët e Italisë, te Gjeçovi e deri në Malsi të Gjakovës - këtu me një vendkëmbim ojne - dhe sipas disa 'eksperte', është një fjalë tingullore (onomatopeike) e gjuhës. JONE (melodi, etj.) ngjanë mjaft me greqishtën ίωή (melodi, 'tingëllimë zëri', 'fishëkëllim në erë', etj.).

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[quoteemNga fjalori i Lekë Matrëngës (1592)]sarkosurit të Hist. v. 1592 të sarkosurit ”e jetëri i të sarkosurit të krishtit zotit t’inë” (L. M, fol. 9v.). Shih grek. σάρκα, σάρξ, κρέασ, σαρκώδησ ‘me mish’, sarcofago.[/quoteem]
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[quoteemEtimologji - ''2 parole dialettali del Veneto'']ven. gòto "bicchiere" - shq. gotë
ven. pirón "forchetta" - shq. pirun[/quoteem]
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Dy fjale sumere-hetite
manous-whomen -femer nuse
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An Albanian god of evil and death. In modern Albania Djall is the name of the Devil. He is also called Dreq from the Latin draco

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Rumunisht Jepuri rumunisht kapriori
Shqip Lepuri shqip kaprolli
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Arbëri wrote:Rumunisht Jepuri rumunisht kapriori
Shqip Lepuri shqip kaprolli
ne etruskisht "kapra" eshte quajtur dhija e eger, sipas fjalorit te Hesychit.

etruskishtja vertetohet si gjuhe shqipe edhe shume me e vjeter se rumanishtja.
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Polianus duke folur mbi lufterat e taulanteve kunder mbreterise maqedonase thote:
«Ἀργαῖος βασιλεὺς Μακεδόνων, Ταυλαντίων Γάλαυρος· Ταυλάντιοι στρατεύουσιν ἐπὶ Μακεδόνας. Ἀργαῖος, ἦν γὰρ αὐτῷ χεὶρ ὀλίγη, κελεύει τὰς παρθένους τῶν Μακεδόνων, ἐπειδὰν οἰ πολέμιοι προσάγωσι τὴν φάλαγγα, αὐτοῖς ἐκ τοῦ ὅρους τῆς Ἐρεβοίας ἐπιφανῆναι. Οἱ μὲν δὴ προσῆγον· αἱ δὲ ἐπεφάνησαν καὶ κατῄεσαν ἀπὸ τοῦ ὅρους παρθένοι πολλαὶ θύρσους ἀντὶ δοράτων πάλλουσαι καὶ στεφάνοις τὰ πρόσωπα σκιάζουσαι. Γάλαυρος ἐξεπλάγη ἄνδρας εἶναι τὰς παρθένους ἀπὸ μακροῦ νομίζων καὶ τὸ ἀνακλητικὸν ὑπεσήμηνεν· Ταυλάντιοι δὲ ἔφευγον τά τε ὅπλα ἀποβαλόντες καὶ τὰ σκευοφόρα καταλιπόντες. Ἀργαῖος ἀμαχεὶ κρατήσας ἱερὸν ἱδρύεται Διονύσῳ Ψευδάνορι καὶ τὰς παρθένους, ἃς πάλαι Κλώδωνας ἔκλῃζον οἱ Μακεδόνες, αὐτὸς κλῄζειν ἔταξε διὰ τὴν μίμησιν τῶν ἀνδρῶν Μιμαλλόνας».

"In the reign of Argaeus, the Illyrian Taulantii under Galaurus invaded Macedonia.Argaeus, whose force was very small, directed the Macedonian virgins (parthenoi), as the enemy advanced, to show themselves from mount Ereboea ( Ἐρέβοια ). They accordingly did so; and in a numerous body they poured down , covered by wreaths, and brandishing their thyrsi instead of spears. Galaurus, intimidated by the numbers of those, whom instead of women he supposed to be men, sounded a retreat; whereupon the Taulantii, throwing away their weapons, and whatever else might retard their escape, abandoned themselves to a precipitate flight. Argaeus, having thus obtained a victory without the hazard of a battle, erected a temple to Dionysus Pseudanor; and ordered the Virgins, who were before called Klοdones (Κλώδωνες) by the Macedonians, to ever afterwards be distinguished by the title of Mimallones (Μιμαλλόνες = imitators of men)".
παρθένους τῶν Μακεδόνων = Parthenus ton Makedonon

παρθέ = Bardhë. Pra, atributi kyq i virgjerise femerore eshte bardhesia ndaj edhe Polianus perdor kete fjale per te shenuar virgjereshat maqedonase qe u perdoren si ushtare nga mbreti Arge.
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Mallakastrioti, kjo eshte spektakolare. Greket e vjeter kane folur shqip dhe zakonet e tyre jane teresisht zakonet e Laberise:

ἀμφοτέροισι δὲ τοῖσιν ὑφ᾽ ἵμερος ὦρτο γόοιο:
κλαῖον δὲ λιγέως, ἀδινώτερον ἤ τ᾽ οἰωνοί,
φῆναι ἢ αἰγυπιοὶ γαμψώνυχες, οἷσί τε τέκνα

le ti marrim fjalet nje nga nje:

κλαῖον perkthimi: cry
λιγέως perkthimi (no definition) por fjala shqip ligjeroj, nga ku ka dale dhe """grekja"" logos eshte mese evidente
ἀδινός perkthimi: violent, shqiperimi: dhinbje(dhimbje)
φαίνω perkthimi: appear, shqiperimi: fanepsem
αἰγυπιοὶ perkthimi vulture, shqiperimi zh-gab
γαμψῶ perkthimi claw, shqiperimi kambë(këmbë)
οἷσί perkthimi he, this, that shqiperimi: ai eshte
τέκνα perkthimi child (perkthim i gabuar)
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