"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

Spjegimi i emrave nga mitologjia "greke"

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Pershendetje,

Kam nje pytje se sa mund te kete lidhje gjuha ne spjegimin e emrave? Pra a mund te thojm qe n'qofse nje emer "grek" spjegohet ne gjuhen shqip te jet edhe me te vertet shqip? A mund te perdoret ky argument si fakt qe ka lidhje me gjuhen shqipe?

Ketu eshte edhe trungu nga zotat ne mitologjine "greke":

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Kisha pas deshir qe dikush ta bente perkthimin e ketyre emrave ne shqip, mbasi momentalisht ne forum nuk gjindet asgje ne kete tematik.

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Mbasi kurrkush nuk e morri guximin p'ja filloj un qka kam ndegju deri tash:

HOMER = HO + MER (I MJER - sepse ka qen i verbuar)
AFERDITA = AFER + DITA
POSEIDON = POS + I + E + DON (Pusin e don, mbasi ka qen mbret i urjave)
ZEUS = ZOT?

Sa mund te jen keto te verteta?
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Spjegimi i emrave te pervecem, me gjuhen e sotme shqipe, eshte nje proces me risk shume te larte per gabim. Megjithate, persa ju perket disa prej perendive te lashta mund te merret ky rrezik, sepse per nje arsye apo nje tjeter, shpjegimet ne gjuhen shqipe perkojne shume me cilesite e tyre.
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Jam i nji menidmi me ju Zeus. Jam i sigurte qe eshte nji humbje kohe dhe harxhim energjie i kote. Eshte mahnitese sesi gjuhetare dhe jogjuhetaret e kaperdijne kete ngecje dhe vazhdojne te kalojne kete budallsi ne brezat e 5 shekujve te fundit.
Ajo me kujton nje histori nga qyteti im i lindjes. Kishim nje budall ne qytet qe bente gjithmone te njeten pyetje, "Cfare eshte nji gje e verdhe ne maje te plepit?".
Dikush pergjigjej "Kanerina". Dikush tjeter pergjigjej duke thene emrin e ndonji zogu tjeter qe kishte performanca te ngjyres se verdhe. Me ne fund, pasi degjuesit nuk e gjenin, budalli replikonte duke thene, "Portokallja o budallenj".
Nje mendje shejtan-budallai lind portokallen ne plep, dhe me mijera te tjere bien pre e pjeses "budallaqe" te pyetjes duke u shqyer per te gjet pergjigjen.
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Eshte e vertet se keto spjegime jan kote por problemi qendron qe disa "patriot te internetit" shqiptar po bejn "spam" neper forume greke duke postuar kesij lloj faktesh. Une mendoj qe ka shume kategori tjera ku mund te "deshifrojm" gjera dhe t'i perdorum si fakte.

Pak per humor:

AFRIKA - AFER DHE IK

AMERIKA - HA MERR IK

AZI - A ZI (ngjyra zez)

-hahaha- -hahaha-
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Etimologji: gr. Χρόνος

In Greek mythology, chronos (Ancient Greek: Χρόνος) in pre-Socratic philosophical works is said to be the personification of time. His name in Modern Greek also means "year" and is alternatively spelled Chronus (Latin spelling). Chronos was imagined as an incorporeal god. Serpentine in form, with three heads - that of a man, a bull, and a lion. He and his consort, serpentine Ananke (Inevitability), circled the primal world-egg in their coils and split it apart to form the ordered universe of earth, sea and sky. He is not to be confused with the Titan Cronus. He was depicted in Greco-Roman mosaics as a man turning the Zodiac Wheel. Often the figure is named Aeon (Eternal Time), a common alternate name for the god. Chronos is usually portrayed through an old, wise man with a long, gray beard, such as "Father Time". Some of the current English words whose etymological root is khronos/chronos include chronology, chronometer, chronic, anachronism, and chronicle.

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gr. Χρόνος "personification of time"
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Arban, je bleta punetore pa ze ne kete forum.
Per fjalen Xronoς~Hronos~kronos=koha them qe do te thote 'qe ha',po, kaq e thjeshte ,ashtu sic tingellon shqip 'qe ha',sic e thone 'ta Orfika' tek theogonia e cila vetem shqip deshifrohet dhe argumentohet mbi nje baze logjike te pranushme.Theogonia e sajuar sote eshte abuzimi me flagrant i diturise qe bart gjuha e sotme shqipe.
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Mendoj se ke pjeserisht te drejte, eshte e vertete qe nuk duhet ngaterruar Kroni titan(me ekuivalentin e tij romak saturnin), zotin qe permbysi atin e tij Uran, me Kronin babain e kohes, zotin e kaosit dhe te kohes.
H. J. Rose, observed that attempts to give Kronos a Greek etymology have failed.
ne greqisht fjala do te thote vit, ne shqip kuptimi i fjales eshte shume me i gjere, pra koha, Kroni eshte nje father of time, ai eshte vete koha.
Nje gje dihet mire, greket nuk kane perdorur kalendar, prandaj ekziston thenia ironike ne kalendat greke(dmth kurre, meqenese nuk ka kalenda greke), pra fjala kronia ne greqisht eshte mjaft e re, kur greket kane filluar te perdorin kalendar.

Une nuk di te them sakte cila fjale eshte me e vjeter ! Kron apo Kohe ! mendoj qe ne antikitet kemi te bejme me zotin koh.

Derivatet e fjales kron jane dhe (fjale te reja por te cilat kane te bejne pikerisht me kohen, jo me vitin grek)...kronologji, kronometer, kronik, anakronik(jashte kohe), kronikat etj.

PS. per lidhjet e fjales Kron me perrenj dhe me krua, mendoj qe ja ke futur kot lol...vete fjala kohe eshte e ngjashme me kron, perndryshe ne shqipen e sotme kohen do e quanim krua :D

Ne mitologji zoti kron(si father of time) nuk ka te beje fare me lumenj dhe perrenj dhe me kronj lol.
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