“The Macedonians were considered as non-Greeks down to the time of Philip; Kaerst (see n. 5) I 154-162. Kaerst argues even that Philip was made a member of the Amphiktyonic Council personally, as of Greek descent from the Heraklidae, and not as a reprezentative of the Macedonians, who were still regarded as non-Greek”.
*City-state and World State in Greek and Roman Political Theory Until Augustus, Mason Hammond, 1966, p. 174
Τραλλία, μοῖρα τῆς Ἰλλυρίας. λέγονται καὶ Τράλλοι, καὶ Τράλλεις παρὰ Θεοπόμπῳ. λέγεται καὶ Τραλλική καὶ Τράλλα. ἔστι καὶ Τράλλιον Βιθυνίας, ἣ καθήκει πρὸς τὸν Ἀστακηνὸν κόλπον. τὸ ἐθνικὸν τούτου Τράλλιοι.
duke u mbeshtetur tek Theopompi. 
Shpjegimi i tyre eshte qe termi : "helmete ilire" eshte konvencional. Kjo ka ndodhur sepse ne fillim kjo lloj helmete u gjet ne territoret ilire, por me pas sipas tyre, u gjet me shumice ne te ashtequajturen Greqi, duke e bere automatikisht te tyren, sipas standarteve kleptomane te kultures greke.bardus wrote:Nuk e di cfare shpjegimi mund te japin greket, ne kete muze te familjes mbreterore te Maqedoneve ne Vergina te Greqise kur sheh qe aty gjenden helmeta dhe shpata ilire.
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Illyricis — undis — "amid the Illyrian waters." The allusion is to the Adriatic Sea In general. The Illyrians, besides then- settlements on the north-eastern shores of the Adriatic, had at one time extended themselves as far as Ancona, on the coast of Italy.
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Q. Horatii Flacci opera. The works of Horace, with Engl. notes by J. Currie