"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460

Emra(fjale) sllave ose shqipe?

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ἀποτράχω - apotrachô - POTRCUVA - run away
(Attic/Doric apotrechô-потрчува)
Mod. Greek:to skao=скока
Shqip-Albanian=ik, largohem

ἄσπαλοι - aspaloi - SPLAV,PLOVI,PLIVA - fishes
Athamanian (Attic ichthyes) (Ionic chlossoi) (Cf.LSJ aspalia angling , aspalieus fisherman , aspalieuomai I angle metaph. Of a lover , aspalisai: halieusai, sagêneusai. (hals sea)
Shqip-Albanian=det: -deti (në emra të përbërë), peshk

Ϝεῖδυς - Weidus -VEDA,ZNAENJE,- knowing
(Doric Ϝειδώς) weidôs) (Elean ϝειζός weizos) (Attic εἰδώς) eidôs) (PIE *weid- "to know, to see" ,Sanskrit veda I know) Cabanes, L'Épire 577,50
Shqip-Albanian=mirinformuar: i mirinformuar, mprehtë: i mprehtë, mirëkuptim: mirëkuptimi,dituri, njohuri

κάστον - kaston - KOSTEN - wood (chestnut)
Athamanian (Attic xylon from xyô scrape , hence xyston) (Dialectical kalon wood from kaiô burn kauston sth that can be burnt, kausimon fuel)
Shqip-Albanian =gështenjtë: i gështenjtë, ngjyrë gështenjë

Νάϊος - Naios or Naos - NANOS,NAPLIV - epithet of Dodonaean Zeus
(from the spring in the oracle) (cf. Naiades and Pan Naios in Pydna SEG 50:622
(Homeric cnaô flow ,Attic nama spring) (PIE *sna-)
Shqip-Albanian like Macedon=lumë, rrjedhë, ardhje, rrjedhje, baticë, shpejtësi, lëvizje, rrëke, përrua, ngritje

Jan do trollime sllave keto, neper disa forume dhe blloge te tyre ku shperthejn me nje satisfakcion te tyre dhe vetbesim se vetem ata jan me te bukurit dhe me te vjetrit...
Behet fjale per disa EMRA(fjale), si p.sh. geshtenje, e cila "rjedh" nga ajo e sllaveve KOSTEN qe paska dashut te tregoje per fryt i forte si KOSKA ose eshter ne gjuhen sllave(maqedone).

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Le ti marrim me rradhe sepse secila prej tyre kerkon shpjegime te gjata:
ἀποτράχω - apotrachô - POTRCUVA - run away
(Attic/Doric apotrechô-потрчува)
Eshte e vertete qe nje nga sinonimet eshte apotrehein(to run away) pervec ekdidraskein por kjo nuk eshte nje folje e thjeshte, sepse apo ne krye te saj eshte parafjale e bashkengjitur kurse τράχω(dorik), nje pjese e linguistave mendojne qe eshte rezultat i transformimit te fjales dhromos=udhe

present τρέχω, future: θρέξω, aorist: ἔθρεξα, -I run, move quickly

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Por une personalisht mendoj qe eshte folja shqip trembem, dridhem, qe nuk ndryshon shume nga shprehja e greqishtes se vjeter:

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pra kuptimi eshte: po iki me vrap nga frika=po tremem

Por ne te dyja rastet s'ka te beje fare me fjalen sllave.
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Picasso` wrote: ἀποτράχω - apotrachô - POTRCUVA - run away
(Attic/Doric apotrechô-потрчува)
Mod. Greek:to skao=скока

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Kjo s'eshte e vertete, τρέχω eshte prezente dhe ne greqishten e re.
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Picasso` wrote: Ϝεῖδυς - Weidus -VEDA,ZNAENJE,- knowing
(Doric Ϝειδώς) weidôs) (Elean ϝειζός weizos) (Attic εἰδώς) eidôs) (PIE *weid- "to know, to see" ,Sanskrit veda I know) Cabanes, L'Épire 577,50
Shqip-Albanian=mirinformuar: i mirinformuar, mprehtë: i mprehtë, mirëkuptim: mirëkuptimi,dituri, njohuri
Ai qe ka pergatitur keto ka qene shume injorant, dhe tregon qe s'ka njohje ose duke bere zgjedhje selektive, mundohet te mbuloje nje argument sipas interesit te tij . Megjithate une pergatita nje shpjegim te vogel:

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Shum bukur, si perher Zeus...

Por me ate Geshtenjen, ka gjasa te jete huazim nga dinaket sllav?
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Picasso` wrote:Shum bukur, si perher Zeus...

Por me ate Geshtenjen, ka gjasa te jete huazim nga dinaket sllav?
Jo, kjo fjale eshte mbareeuropiane, sepse
καστονο(gr) =chestnut(en)=geshtenj(gashtenj-geg)=castagna(it)*
ku:
k=ch(ç)-->g

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dhe ν=n=nj=gn

* fjalet jane zgjedhur nga grupet me pikante te gjuheve europiane.
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Νάϊος - Naios or Naos - NANOS,NAPLIV - epithet of Dodonaean Zeus
(from the spring in the oracle) (cf. Naiades and Pan Naios in Pydna SEG 50:622
Po kjo c'lidhje ka me sllavishten?? Apo futja kot?
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(Homeric cnaô flow ,Attic nama spring) (PIE *sna-)
Shqip-Albanian like Macedon=lumë, rrjedhë, ardhje, rrjedhje, baticë, shpejtësi, lëvizje, rrëke, përrua, ngritje
Si gjithmone, ketu ""miqte"" tane sllave jane gabim, sepse fjala e vjeter """greke'" rreith~rjedh eshte pothuajse identike me fjalen shqipe rrjedh dhe folja eshte rrjedh-rrodh, po ashtu dhe fjala reyma nuk eshte gje tjeter vecse shqipja rryma:

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po ashtu dhe fjala shqipe kron(krua, kroi)=spring, qe ne ""greqisht"" eshte kroun-os

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Pra cdo gje flet ne favor te shqipes, ngjashmeria nuk eshte sporadike si ne rastin e sllavishtes, por eshte e vazhdueshme, e plote, dhe e pamohueshme. Si e tille ajo nuk ngelet vetem ne kuadrin e ngjashmerise, por tregon qarte se gjuha e vjeter greke, seshte gje tjeter vecse nje e folme shqip.
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shum sqarime te mira Zeus te lumte :)

per pak do thosha hallall por meqe ky forum eshte shqiptar edhe te mundoemi sa me shum ti permbahemi gjuhes tone thash te lumte hehehehe
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Do te bej nje kontinuitet ne kete teme qe te mos grumbullojme tema shum...

fjala: Shtepi, shpi

fjala: Shpat; Spate

fjala: kulminacion

Dhe lidhja e ketyre me ate greqishten e vjeter, gje qe me intereson teper...
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Picasso` wrote:Do te bej nje kontinuitet ne kete teme qe te mos grumbullojme tema shum...

fjala: Shtepi, shpi

fjala: Shpat; Spate

fjala: kulminacion

Dhe lidhja e ketyre me ate greqishten e vjeter, gje qe me intereson teper...



Fjala SHPATE eshte puro shqiptare bile edhe Rumunet SHpates i thuan SPADA
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