Epirus ('Hrrctpof : 'Hfreipwr^f, fem. 'H7mp<jTtf : now Albania), that is, " the main land," a country in the northwest of Greece, so called to distinguish it from Corcyra and the other islands off the coast. Homer gives the name of Epirus to the whole of the western coast of EPIRUS NOVA.
Greece, thus including Acarnania in it. Epirus was bounded by Illyria and Macedonia on the north, by Thessaly on the east, by Acarnania and the Ambracian Gulf on the south, and by the Ionian Sea on the west. The principal mountains were the Acroceraunii, forming the northwestern boundary; besides which there were the mountains Tomarus in the east, and Crania in the south. The chief rivers were the Celydnus, Thyamis, Acheron, and Arachthus. The inhabitants of Epirus were numerous, but were not of pure Hellenic blood. The original population appears to have been Pelasgic; and the ancient oracle of Dodona in the country was always regarded as of Pelasgic origin. These Pelasgians were subsequently mingled with Illyrians, who at various times invaded Epirus arid settled in the country. Epirus contained fourteen different tribes. Of these the most important were the Chaones, Thesproti, and MoLossr, who gave their names to the three principal divisions of the country, Chaonia, TnEspROTiA,andMoi,ossis. The different tribes were originally governed by their own princes. The Molossian princes, who traced their descent from Pyrrhus (Neoptolemus), son of Achilles, subsequently acquired the sovereignty over the whole country, and took the title of kings of Epirus. The first who bore this title was Alexander, who invaded Italy to assist the Tarentines against the Lucanians and Bruttii, and perished at the battle of Pandosia, B.C. 326. The most celebrated of the later kings was PvrBhus, who carried on war with the Romans. About B.C. 200 the Epirots established a republic ; and the Romans, after the conquest of Philip, 197, guaranteed its independence. But in consequence of the support which the Epirots afforded to Antiochus and Perseus, /Emilius Paulus received orders from the senate to punish them with the utmost severity. He destroyed seventy of their towns, and sold one hundred and fifty thousand of the inhabitants for slaves. In the time of Augustus the country had not yet recovered from the effects of this devastation.
Epirus Nova. Vid. Illyricom.
~A new classical dictionary of Greek and Roman biography, mythology, and geography
by Sir William Smith, 1851, 285-286
"Moreover, you scorned our people, and compared the Albanese to sheep, and according to your custom think of us with insults. Nor have you shown yourself to have any knowledge of my race. Our elders were Epirotes, where this Pirro came from, whose force could scarcely support the Romans. This Pirro, who Taranto and many other places of Italy held back with armies. I do not have to speak for the Epiroti. They are very much stronger men than your Tarantini, a species of wet men who are born only to fish. If you want to say that Albania is part of Macedonia I would concede that a lot more of our ancestors were nobles who went as far as India under Alexander the Great and defeated all those peoples with incredible difficulty. From those men come these who you called sheep. But the nature of things is not changed. Why do your men run away in the faces of sheep?"
Letter from Skanderbeg to the Prince of Taranto ▬ Skanderbeg, October 31 1460
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Ja dhe nje poezi tjeter e perpara 1561 ne Italisht dhe Arberisht ku Epiri identifikohet me Arberine:


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Nje nder librat me te vjeter te botuar ne Londer mbi 'Skenderbeun mbretin e Epiroteve tash te quajtur Shqiptare' !




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E shkelqyer Socio, me poshte eshte nje kolazh me faqe librash te mesjetes, ne funksion te asaj qe ke sjelle te qarte si drita e diellit:


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Une kam mbetur pafjale nga keto materiale te vyeshme qe i keni sjellur vellezer. Pranojeni dhe nje kontribut timin
te vogel me nje harte qe e kam gjetur te 1857 ku Epiri si rendom eshte perfshire brenda Shqiperise:

Sarah Sophia Cornell in 1857:
(New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1857; Designed to Accompany Cornell's High School Geography, 1:9,187,000)

New York: Johnson & Ward, 1863, 1:22,176,000)
te vogel me nje harte qe e kam gjetur te 1857 ku Epiri si rendom eshte perfshire brenda Shqiperise:
Sarah Sophia Cornell in 1857:
(New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1857; Designed to Accompany Cornell's High School Geography, 1:9,187,000)
New York: Johnson & Ward, 1863, 1:22,176,000)
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" Every man born in Albania," says Pouqueville,
"may be distinguished by his physiognomy, temperament
and character from the Greeks and the Turks."
Strong, active, and patient of fatigue, they
were the soldiers of Pyrrhus, Scander-Beg and Ali-Pacha.
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Shkelqyeshem Socio! Me nuk po kam fjale te mjaftueshme per te shprehur levdatat dhe pergezimet e mia me te sincerta
per keto materiale me vlere te rralle qe po i sjell.
Socio, desha te te pyes dicka? Si e ka emrin kjo vepra ku gjendet ne te cilin gjendet ky shkrim i Dhimosten Budines?
per keto materiale me vlere te rralle qe po i sjell.
Socio, desha te te pyes dicka? Si e ka emrin kjo vepra ku gjendet ne te cilin gjendet ky shkrim i Dhimosten Budines?
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Ndoshta nuk eshte per temen perkatese por me beri disi te ve buzen ne gaz ky pershkrim i udhetarit Irlandez ,Edward Dodwell (Dublino, 1767 – Roma, 14 maggio 1832) ne librin e tij" A classical and topographical tour through Greece...",volumi I,f-24:
"The Chimariotes are like their ancestors in the time of Cantacuzene, whom he terms" Albanoi autonomoi nomades"=(Albanian independent shepherds.) The Chimariotes who inhabit the Acroceraunian range are a hardy and predatory race of Albanian Christians, who sometimes come out from their rocks, and carry in vessels, which they see becalmed off their coast; our captain assured us that they sell their Christian prisoners to the Turks."
...tipike "grek" Himare na paskeshin qene ne shek 18 himarjotet
"The Chimariotes are like their ancestors in the time of Cantacuzene, whom he terms" Albanoi autonomoi nomades"=(Albanian independent shepherds.) The Chimariotes who inhabit the Acroceraunian range are a hardy and predatory race of Albanian Christians, who sometimes come out from their rocks, and carry in vessels, which they see becalmed off their coast; our captain assured us that they sell their Christian prisoners to the Turks."
...tipike "grek" Himare na paskeshin qene ne shek 18 himarjotet


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Faleminderit Alb !
Libri quhet, 'Iliret dhe gjeneza e shqiptareve' 1969 Muzafer Korkuti et al
Faleminderit Zeus !
Edhe disa citime ne nje liber tjeter anglez, mbi Epirin perndryshe te quajtur Shqiperi, vendin e Pirros dhe Shqiptareve, famen e te cileve Shqiptare edhe Mbreti Henry i Tete ka degjuar gjate luftes se tyre ne France.
Kesaj rradhe libri eshte i vitit 1560 (http://en.scientificcommons.org/26965159)
Citimet jane te ndricuara me ngjyre te verdhe :


Metutje, ne citimin qe vijon autori nuk ben fare dallim mes termit 'Epirot' dhe atij 'Shqiptar', per ate, keto terme i referohen te njejtit popull:

Ndersa, ne faqen tjeter shqiptaret 'Albanes' (te cilet me heret autori i quajti Epirot) vecohen nga Greket !

Libri quhet, 'Iliret dhe gjeneza e shqiptareve' 1969 Muzafer Korkuti et al
Faleminderit Zeus !
Edhe disa citime ne nje liber tjeter anglez, mbi Epirin perndryshe te quajtur Shqiperi, vendin e Pirros dhe Shqiptareve, famen e te cileve Shqiptare edhe Mbreti Henry i Tete ka degjuar gjate luftes se tyre ne France.
Kesaj rradhe libri eshte i vitit 1560 (http://en.scientificcommons.org/26965159)
Citimet jane te ndricuara me ngjyre te verdhe :


Metutje, ne citimin qe vijon autori nuk ben fare dallim mes termit 'Epirot' dhe atij 'Shqiptar', per ate, keto terme i referohen te njejtit popull:

Ndersa, ne faqen tjeter shqiptaret 'Albanes' (te cilet me heret autori i quajti Epirot) vecohen nga Greket !

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Falemnderit Socio,
Vazhdo te gjesh materiale te tilla (kur te kesh kohe te lire kuptohet) se ato vecse po na perforcojne argumentin tone.
Zeus, anglishtja e vitit 1500 kur eshte shkruajtur kjo liber eshte teper e zorshme (e kuptoj vetem intutivisht).
Po te mundje ta perkthesh te pakten ne anglishten moderne ose ne shqip, do te ishte mire
per shkak se do te na e lehtesonte plasimin e kesaj te vertete!?
Vazhdo te gjesh materiale te tilla (kur te kesh kohe te lire kuptohet) se ato vecse po na perforcojne argumentin tone.
Zeus, anglishtja e vitit 1500 kur eshte shkruajtur kjo liber eshte teper e zorshme (e kuptoj vetem intutivisht).
Po te mundje ta perkthesh te pakten ne anglishten moderne ose ne shqip, do te ishte mire
per shkak se do te na e lehtesonte plasimin e kesaj te vertete!?
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Ndoshta jane germat ato qe te ngaterrojne disi dhe me pak perqendrim teksti eshte i kuptueshem, te pakten ne pjeset e nenvizuara. Duhet nje veshtrim i dyte per te vecuar gjermanizmat dhe latinizmat nga anglishtja.ALBPelasgian wrote:
Zeus, anglishtja e vitit 1500 kur eshte shkruajtur kjo liber eshte teper e zorshme (e kuptoj vetem intutivisht).
Po te mundje ta perkthesh te pakten ne anglishten moderne ose ne shqip, do te ishte mire
per shkak se do te na e lehtesonte plasimin e kesaj te vertete!?
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Enciklopedia Britanika e vitit 2002 e pranon iliricitetin e Epirit:
The origins of the Albanian people are not definitely known, but data drawn from history and from linguistic, archaeological, and anthropological studies have led to the conclusion that Albanians are the direct descendants of the ancient Illyrians and that the latter were natives of the lands they inhabited. Similarly, the Albanian language derives from the language of the Illyrians, the transition from Illyrian to Albanian apparently occurring between the 4th and 6th centuries AD. (Some scholars, however, dispute such theses, arguing that Illyrians were not autochthonous and that Albanian derives from a dialect of the now-extinct Thracian language.)
Illyrian culture is believed to have evolved from the Stone Age and to have manifested itself in the territory of Albania toward the beginning of the Bronze Age, about 2000 BC. The Illyrians were not a uniform body of people but a conglomeration of many tribes that inhabited the western part of the Balkans, from what is now Slovenia in the northwest to (and including) the region of Epirus, which extends about halfway down the mainland of modern Greece. In general, Illyrians in the highlands of Albania were more isolated than those in the lowlands, and their culture evolved more slowly—a distinction that persisted throughout Albania's history.
Authors of antiquity relate that the Illyrians were a sociable and hospitable people, renowned for their daring and bravery at war. Illyrian women were fairly equal in status to the men, even to the point of becoming heads of tribal federations. In matters of religion, Illyrians were pagans who believed in an afterlife and buried their dead along with arms and various articles intended for personal use.
The land of Illyria was rich in minerals—iron, copper, gold, silver—and Illyrians became skillful in the mining and processing of metals. They were highly skilled boat builders and sailors as well; indeed, their light, swift galleys known as liburnae were of such superior design that the Romans incorporated them into their own fleet as a type of warship called the Liburnian.
Refference : British National Encyclopedy .
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